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2011-06-04
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Reality check. MS rules the PC world. We may dislike it as much as we want, they still rule. Nokia still rules the mobile market
People generally don't care what OS their phones are running, but they know that Nokia will be totally renewed very soon
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2011-06-04
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I think that perceptions have changed since Apple and Google transformed the mobile market. I think that Nokia and Microsoft are seen as just other competitors in a big marketplace. Computers, phones and tablets are just commodities, more like TVs than they once were. If I had to pick the one predominant TV maker, I wouldn't know who to pick.
In the US, I don't think Nokia rules anything.
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2011-06-05
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2011-06-05
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You are right, but wrong. Mobile phones have been commodities for a long time already and Nokia have been the preferred brand (world wide) because of quality and value. Apple has in some ways taken over at the top, but in other ways Android devices have. Nokia doesn't offer the same value right now, but with MS they will. As I said earlier, a revolution is not needed, only something that is perceived as equal value as the others regarding HW, OS and ecosystem.
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2011-06-05
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You are right, but wrong. Mobile phones have been commodities for a long time already and Nokia have been the preferred brand (world wide) because of quality and value.
Apple has in some ways taken over at the top,
but in other ways Android devices have.
Nokia doesn't offer the same value right now, but with MS they will. As I said earlier, a revolution is not needed, only something that is perceived as equal value as the others regarding HW, OS and ecosystem.
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2011-06-05
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2011-06-05
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Aside from neglecting MeeGo, choosing WP7 and not Android, etc,
this seemingly reputable source claims that and explains why "Stephen Elop is deluded" (warning, monstrous blog entry). And also in another blog entry why Elop's February-anouncement (instead of e.g. Q4 2011) to drop Symbian cost Nokia >14 Billion USD.
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2011-06-05
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I remember now why I stopped subscribing to his blog. He uses sheer volume to communicate his points and accuses of others interpreting facts based on what they want to see yet does the same himself.
The US provides no leadership in smartphones? So who is, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea?
He talks about Japan leading the US, yet in Japan Google / iOS dominate 95% of the smartphone marketshare (57% and 38% respectively). I like that he conveniently throws mixes smartphone and cellphone data using which ever is most convenient to him and ignores facts inconvenient to his argument.
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2011-06-05
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You are right, but wrong. Mobile phones have been commodities for a long time already and Nokia have been the preferred brand (world wide) because of quality and value. Apple has in some ways taken over at the top, but in other ways Android devices have. Nokia doesn't offer the same value right now, but with MS they will. As I said earlier, a revolution is not needed, only something that is perceived as equal value as the others regarding HW, OS and ecosystem.
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WP7 may not be a mobile OS marketshare leader but I would not count out the desktop OS marketshare leader. "IF" (and an big IF at that) they get their act together as they build out the consumer OS ecosystem, with Nokia's hardware they could be a strong player.
Look at what Apple has already talked about regarding Lion and what MS has been talking about WP8. The battle is much bigger than a few mobile phones as we enter a post-PC era.