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In what is perhaps the most ironic turn of events thus far, the Russian telecom watchdog Roskomnadzor has apparently blocked all access to Jolla websites.
 

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they blocked many things. google.com doesn't work here, for example. captcha's and blogs on blogspot don't load, too
 

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Originally Posted by pichlo View Post
FWIW, it seems like we have exhausted all that can be possibly said on "Rostelecom investment in Jolla".
The question between the roles of Jolla Ltd. HK and Jolla Oy FI was still opened the last time I checked, and so is the impact of Rostelecom which seems involved more in Jolla Ltd (not clear).

While at fossnorth18, Cybette has taken the following picture of a presentation by James Noori from Jolla:
https://twitter.com/cybette/status/988406967973621761

We can read "Jolla Ltd develops and licenses Sailfish OS", then that they have offices in Helsinki, Tampere and HK.
So on one hand they explicitely mention Jolla *Ltd*, not Oy. But on the other hand they say they have offices in Finland, where it should be Jolla Oy...

The more they talk, the less clear it is about who does or owns what...
 

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Originally Posted by rinigus View Post
cut the beginning of the quote, although it was spot on.
Thanks, nice to know I'm not the only one thinking it.

Now, if you sprinkle your concerns with the closed source components that happen to be dealing with your input (keyboard), communication with your accounts, I am not sure you need that much telemetry to get lots of data regarding the users. And that's a part where owners may play a decisive role.
Exactly. Also even for the open source components, as long as everyone is using packages and binaries built by Jolla, "Jolla has root". You really have to trust your distro maintainer.

There are some things I don't like about Purism's approach to the software for the librem5, but I expect basing their distro on Debian makes it much easier for third parties to build their OS starting from a trusted base provided by someone else, so you wouldn't have to build absolutely everything - you could conceivably build " just" the UI parts from source. Mer seems to be a bit of a clusterf*ck of old packages based on the GPLv2 vs GPLv3 thing, and where do you get a mer image from if you don't trust Jolla? Much shorter list.
 

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