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#2831
Originally Posted by mithrandir View Post
According to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Row_hammer there have been Javascript implementations of Rowhammer. Thus the Drammer attack could also be possible in Javascript and not only by installing an application.
Bummer! Hardly anything you can do about it except hardening JS interpreter so it doesn't execute such code in a way that triggers the bug.

Originally Posted by mithrandir View Post
If we could ensure (somehow) that the neo900 is invulnerable to this kind of attack this could be a strong argument for potential buyers.
Originally Posted by sulu View Post
There's a thread about rowhammer in the Pyra forums too [1], and I guess what Nikolaus said there would also apply to the Neo900.

[1] https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/thr...whammer.78436/
Originally Posted by HNS/Pyra
On the other hand we can't do anything actively about that (we can't change the memory controller or DRAM chips).
Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
There's nothing we could do on a hw design level to mitigate that. It's about the way RAM and the memory controller work
Let's see what (software) solutions they come up with for Android phones. tuning refresh time and spoiling rapid RAM access from "exposed services" like JS is probably the only way to go

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#2832
Is the neo900 project dead?
 

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#2833
Originally Posted by ibretus View Post
Is the neo900 project dead?
If you pop over to neo900.org or #neo900 on freenode you can see for yourself all is far from dead.

git/ee had a commit pushed 53 mins ago in fact.
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#2834
Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast View Post
If you pop over to neo900.org or #neo900 on freenode you can see for yourself all is far from dead.

git/ee had a commit pushed 53 mins ago in fact.
May be far from dead, but minor movements and no physical deliveries are problematic to the layman. Glad to see work done on code still ongoing.

"But when will deliveries start?" is the question that a lot of people currently will have.
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#2835
in the neo900.org i saw that delivery will start > fall 2017 <
 

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#2836
Originally Posted by karlos devel View Post
in the neo900.org i saw that delivery will start > fall 2017 <
That's pretty good, then.

However of course that might change still; I generally consider any estimates that stretch to longer than few months just lucky guesses.
 

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#2837


there we go...finally!
upload successful....
Sorry ...
hard to type without cartilage, sinew, tendons, ligaments, or flesh...
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Owner of : 1-n770 (in retirement),
3-n800's,
3-n810's,
5-n900's
-3 flawless
-1 loose usb (i don't muck with it & stress it , considering selling it, another can fix the loose usb)
-1 no telephony (perfect for permanent set-up as mini-pc with one of my monitors)
half a neo900 pre- "bought"....due for production any day now.


PIMP MY N8X0
Everything you need tightly explained in layman's terms ..in an easy to understand format.. and a video walkthrough to boot.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAY
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634

THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PRO
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567

AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
 

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-1 loose usb (i don't muck with it & stress it , considering selling it, another can fix the loose usb)
-1 no telephony (perfect for permanent set-up as mini-pc with one of my monitors)
half a neo900 pre- "bought"....due for production any day now.


PIMP MY N8X0
Everything you need tightly explained in layman's terms ..in an easy to understand format.. and a video walkthrough to boot.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAY
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634

THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PRO
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567

AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325

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#2840
me wastes a 10 min pondering what to answer to this flood of "funny" contributions of animated gifs. Interrupts chat with Ahycka and Ceene (layouters of proto_v2) for that

40 more N900 in the shipping pipeline
http://neo900.org/stuff/kicad/proto_...iew-howto.html

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