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	w00t	2013-12-18 , 23:24
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Originally Posted by robnas

We've had two updates, but still lacking landscape mode:

This is a serious issue, it's part of basic functionality on a mobile browser...
Any idea when this issue will be solved?

It's definitely important. We understand that. For the time being/initial updates, our software priorities are on improving important issues that have been brought up in the software & features we already have. Once we're a little more solid, we'll start taking a look at the features list.

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	qwazix	2013-12-19 , 00:07
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the keyboard can be swiped down just like the N9

about the mail notifications, I agree that the behaviour doesn't make sense. If you receive tens of mails an hour just silence the notifications altogether. Beeping for only the first one does not help, especially if you miss it for whatever reason

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aegis	2013-12-19 , 00:18
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Have to agree on the mail notification complaints. I always considered it a bug in the N9 that it didn't notify me of every new email.

I have three mail accounts that I use to filter stuff that is important.

My personal email isn't that important and the current notification system is ok.

I have two work accounts - one notifying me of web server outages/resource constraints and another of support tickets. Ideally I really want to be interrupted whatever I'm doing for those two when they happen and not find them some time later after I've missed the first notification sound because I was away.

While I'm at it, I'd also only like to be interrupted during work hours, not 24/7. The N9 used to have schedules where you had peak and off-peak hours. Jolla doesn't yet.

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	qwazix	2013-12-19 , 00:22
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Also the browser forgets scroll position whrn going back. Sounds minor, but it breaks the workflow of blog-reading.

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aegis	2013-12-19 , 00:38
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Originally Posted by qwazix

Also the browser forgets scroll position whrn going back. Sounds minor, but it breaks the workflow of blog-reading.

And if you're reading a long page or reading slowly the screen times out and double tapping takes you to the launcher, not the app that was on the screen before it timed out. THAT is annoying.

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Milhouse	2013-12-19 , 00:47
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Originally Posted by aegis

My personal email isn't that important and the current notification system is ok.

I have two work accounts - one notifying me of web server outages/resource constraints and another of support tickets. Ideally I really want to be interrupted whatever I'm doing for those two when they happen and not find them some time later after I've missed the first notification sound because I was away.

In Android, with the Gmail application, the "Alert every new email" option is configured at the account level so in Android you could configure your important "server outage" account to alert for every new email, and the other less important accounts could be "alert once" (or even just set a silent email alert tone and not be disturbed at all).

The combination of an alert once/always option and configurable ringtone per account would surely cater for everyone.

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Milhouse	2013-12-19 , 00:50
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Originally Posted by qwazix

the keyboard can be swiped down just like the N9

So. It. Does!

Thanks for that!

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Kabouik	2013-12-19 , 00:56
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Originally Posted by rob_kouw

Pfff, I just sorted out all my contacts. I built up 485 contacts over the years in Exchange. Some of them merged with other contact data on N900 and N9, like photo or address, maybe Skype, LinkedIn, I don't know. But the normal sync with Exchange didn't bring them to the Jolla. Then a sync over bluetooth from the N9, no joy either.

In the end I exported all contacts on the N9 into vcf cards, browsed through the Jolla contacts to find out the missing ones. Painful, as I found no way to see a long list of names. The grouping by initial makes you go up again after finishing A to click the B etc. Anyway, I found 137 names missing.

Merged the vcf files into one file. Sent it to the Jolla, no joy. In Excel I threw out all the lines I mistrusted, leaving plain and simple vcf cards with 1 phone number and 1 e-mail address. Pasted those into a new file, sent it to the Jolla by bluetooth and it worked! There may be an easier way, but I did it!

Originally Posted by Milhouse

I had a similar experience. Couldn't import a single large vcf containing about 166 contacts (with avatars etc.), but could import 26 separate files if I joined all the a*.vcf >a.vcf, b*.vcf > b.vcf etc. Importing the 26 small vcf files went like clockwork. No idea why the large file wouldn't import considering it contained exactly the same data. My method for transferring the vcf files was to email them to myself and open the email attachment on the Jolla.

I've now sent my large vcf file to w00t so hopefully Jolla can work out what the problem is and fix it because it's rather frustrating.

So here's the command line the Jolla dev gave me on IRC:

Code:

cat *vcf | sed 's/VCARDBEGIN/VCARD\r\nBEGIN/g' | cat >> testall.vcf

It's for merging the .vcf files in a way that will better be read by Sailfish.

In my case, it got 160 contacts out of 163 individual .vcf files, so not too bad (better than the 39 it got with a regular "cat *.vcf > all.vcf"). He is going to work on the reason why it did not fully work, and will provide a fix that people will be able to get from the repo.

One part of my fix to vcardconverter will simply be preprocessing the input vcf and looking for lines which match the "END:VCARDBEGIN:VCARD" form, and changing to two lines: "END:VCARD"\r\n"BEGIN:VCARD". but as you say, there's still an outstanding bug there somewhere.

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szopin	2013-12-19 , 00:58
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Guys please, hints tips tricks UI experience and general experience questions/observations, even missing features do not belong here, post bugs/glitches here, other threads specialise in other things

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Kabouik	2013-12-19 , 01:07
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Originally Posted by aegis

And if you're reading a long page or reading slowly the screen times out and double tapping takes you to the launcher, not the app that was on the screen before it timed out. THAT is annoying.

True. To get back to the app, you have to double tap, but double tap + swipe down + tap on the cover. It can be very annoying at some point. And there are plenty of situations where it can happen, not only reading blogs.

Today I ended up setting the lock time to 10 min temporarily, I was so fed up with that gesture combination of double tap + swipe + tap just to return to the application I was in.

A design idea could be to allow double tap + side swipe from the lock screen to return to the last app, as on Harmattan. Swipe down would still be possible to show the homescreen. Currently the lockscreen sideswipe is used for favorite ambiences, which are already accessible from homescreen sideswipes, and admittedly could be accessible from elsewhere so that sideswipes could be used for more critical features.

Last edited by Kabouik; 2013-12-19 at 01:11.