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	joerg_rw	2015-03-11 , 12:46
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re "next steps", JFYI

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klinglerware	2015-03-11 , 14:56
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That does not sound promising, but at least they were being honest.

Obviously, you do want to find a reliable, quality source for those rare parts. But if worse comes to worst, perhaps you can poll your donators to see how many actually want a new Neo vs how many merely want to refresh an N900 that they already have (i.e., just swap-in the board of an otherwise functional N900). Maybe that can relieve some of the pressure...

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	endsormeans	2015-03-11 , 15:02
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+1 and +1 and +1 to allll of it.
Big second to what both British and Klingerware are respectively speaking upon.

I'm in total commiseration and agreement with British...who concisely voiced my stance.

And I believe that klingerware's statement is justified in that.... (if push comes to shove) the path of least resistance in regards to the practicality of full new devices in light of accessibility and cost may make refurbishment more practical.

And a huge happy for the progress jorg.

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sulu	2015-03-11 , 15:07
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Originally Posted by joerg_rw

re "next steps", JFYI
http://wstaw.org/m/2015/03/11/plasma-desktopMT1893.png

Thanks for sharing, even though this is bad news!

@dos:
I'd really appreciate it, if you as the "PR department leader" could summarize bad news like these, dumbed-down versions of the quite technical µBlog posts and important infos like upcoming deadlines in neo900.org articles from time to time.
I understand if you have other things to do, but PR is your role in this project after all and I'd consider it a part of the promised transparency to also let less tech-savvy people or those who don't visit the forums regularly know what's going on.

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	joerg_rw	2015-03-11 , 15:08
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Originally Posted by klinglerware

That does not sound promising, but at least they were being honest.

Obviously, you do want to find a reliable, quality source for those rare parts. But if worse comes to worst, perhaps you can poll your donators to see how many actually want a new Neo vs how many merely want to refresh an N900 that they already have (i.e., just swap-in the board of an otherwise functional N900). Maybe that can relieve some of the pressure...

We're planning to do exactly that via the webshop thing we are about to set up, where every customer can choose what they actually want, on a personal order check/edit/confirmation page.
For the "pressure": i'm of course checking other options as well. I already reported that I found a honest trustworthy contact in China with whom I am about to secure an arbitrary number of used N900 devices. Obviously I need funds and exact numbers about how many of such N900 to secure, to do that. Another reason why we urgently need such "webshop" customer pages now. I just answered an email of a kind project supporter who offered to provide a commercial webshop licence for free. We need to evaluate all those options. I just felt like sharing an arbitrary detail of our daily work when I posted above screenshot - btw I ordered the speakers :-)

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sulu	2015-03-11 , 15:20
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Originally Posted by joerg_rw

We're planning to do exactly that via the webshop thing we are about to set up, where every customer can choose what they actually want, on a personal order check/edit/confirmation page.

Just in case you're not already planning that, please add more detailed options than just ordering a board or a device!
I don't need a complete Neo900, but my spare N900 only has a crappy German keymat (crippled cursors) which I'd like to have replaced.
And I'd prefer to send it to you for assembly, so I can blame you if it doesn't work.

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	joerg_rw	2015-03-11 , 15:22
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On other news: Nikolaus / GDC just told me that $other_project workload dwindles and there are working hours available for Neo900 in ~3 weeks.
Related: concrats to Pyra.

/j

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reinob	2015-03-11 , 15:26
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Originally Posted by sulu

Just in case you're not already planning that, please add more detailed options than just ordering a board or a device!
I don't need a complete Neo900, but my spare N900 only has a crappy German keymat (crippled cursors) which I'd like to have replaced.
And I'd prefer to send it to you for assembly, so I can blame you if it doesn't work.

+ 10000 to the possibility of having a N900 refurbished by you guys (I'm an engineer with two left paws

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	joerg_rw	2015-03-11 , 15:28
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Originally Posted by sulu

Just in case you're not already planning that, please add more detailed options than just ordering a board or a device!
I don't need a complete Neo900, but my spare N900 only has a crappy German keymat (crippled cursors) which I'd like to have replaced.
And I'd prefer to send it to you for assembly, so I can blame you if it doesn't work.

Sure we can do sth about the former. The latter isn't decided upon yet, it has many pitfalls, starting at double-customs and shipping (which could easily get more expensive than using a 'new' N900) and not ending at warranty issues ("who scratched the screen" sort of disputes. Go figure we find your beloved N900 has its screws mangled and can't get disassembled at all). Possibly we can find a tad more local services doing the swap for you if you absolutely feel like not doing it yourself.
Anyway believe me, we will provide a very fine video tutorial how to do that easy lightswap. We also might provide any tools needed (Torx-6 driver basically). You most likely will find it's quite feasible. And in case of worst desaster, you're not on your own, I already sourced (and will continue to do so) spare parts when you actually break something. You shouldn't be able to accidentally break the NeoN board anyway, it's made to last :-) For the most delicate few parts (flex cable for example) we can provide spare parts.

/j

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	endsormeans	2015-03-11 , 15:33
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+1 to that 10 000 there reinob...
I'm aware I'm a decent illustrator-painter-carver, harp-lute-fiddle-dulcimer essent. instrument maker...make alll kinds of geegaws and weird parts too...but I can't build a 3 legged stool to save my life.

Excellent idea to have a vid tutorial . That will be indispensable .