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2010-08-21
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I think your escalation rate is a bit too high 
Perhaps day->week->month->year may be slightly more forgiving.
Perhaps day->week->month->year may be slightly more forgiving.
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2010-08-21
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The idea is absolutely sound, but I'd be a bit softer on the execution. There are people around here who don't realise that's not what bugzilla is for. I suggest something more educational like:
1st offense: a strongly worded email
2nd offense: a week long exclusion (which actually most ranters won't notice)
3rd offense: exclusion from filing bugs unless or until the bug-squad are satisfied of bona fide intent to file properly.
I wouldn't actually install an appeals system. The bug-people (careful choice of words there) don't need the extra hassle. Reversal of exclusion would only be in highly exceptional circumstances. I do think the squad should have the authority to overturn a permanent exclusion if they see fit.
Finally, I'd add a reminder on the filing page saying "Is this a bug or a rant? If a bug, please be concise. If a rant, pleas see Nokia forums."
1st offense: a strongly worded email
2nd offense: a week long exclusion (which actually most ranters won't notice)
3rd offense: exclusion from filing bugs unless or until the bug-squad are satisfied of bona fide intent to file properly.
I wouldn't actually install an appeals system. The bug-people (careful choice of words there) don't need the extra hassle. Reversal of exclusion would only be in highly exceptional circumstances. I do think the squad should have the authority to overturn a permanent exclusion if they see fit.
Finally, I'd add a reminder on the filing page saying "Is this a bug or a rant? If a bug, please be concise. If a rant, pleas see Nokia forums."
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2010-08-21
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in general yes, there should be some kind of mechanism to keep rants an "me toos" low; banning somebody on the 1st offence is not the way to do it. they might be people who just dont know how to contribute to a bug system and didn't mean to do bad. also, all of us have a bad hair day every now and then... even the OP. 
my major concern, though, is if it's the right time now to invest effort in a new policy for bugs.maemo.org.
my major concern, though, is if it's the right time now to invest effort in a new policy for bugs.maemo.org.
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2010-08-21
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if this will stop my dilemma of receiving too much e-mails from the bug that i voted then please do so.....
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2010-08-21
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Originally Posted by ossipena
I think that, while your suggestion is sound, what you really want is incarceration followed by corporal punishment. Just think of how effective it will be and how much fun you will have whipping people you do not like (a.k.a. "ranters") in front of a crowd. And when you get tired of the spectacle, you can always go waterboard some t.m.o characters (a.k.a. "trolls").
Some bugs are getting ridiculous rants and inappropriate comments that only makes a hell for the people who want to look the facts instead of the rants. I am suggesting a really strict policy: 1 month ban for first piece of noise created and 1 year ban for second. Any thoughts? comments? if my suggestion is stupid, contribute your better vesion!
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2010-08-21
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Originally Posted by benny1967
Yeah, it may be a bit too late for that. It seems like Nokia is slowly winding down bugs.maemo.org involvement (what there was of it at any rate) and it will soon be used mainly for extras.
my major concern, though, is if it's the right time now to invest effort in a new policy for bugs.maemo.org.
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2010-08-21
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Originally Posted by ossipena
sigh
Some bugs are getting ridiculous rants and inappropriate comments that only makes a hell for the people who want to look the facts instead of the rants.
I am suggesting a really strict policy: 1 month ban for first piece of noise created and 1 year ban for second.
Any thoughts? comments?
people rant because they feel passionate enough about something to talk about it.
give clear examples of dramatically wrong posts and deal on a case by case basis
being draconian and swinging a banhammer will not win any users over.
emphasise the good sides and push those users to put their passion into the system in different ways.
if my suggestion is stupid, contribute your better vesion!
I was just reading a tracker which had a rant from someones girlfriend flaming linux for taking him away from her.
Should she be banned for a year?
ie - the bugtracker is sound and does not need an over the top policy such as this
it just needs more people to help to cure the issues
get involved and look at the immense amount of Open Source code that CAN be worked on and fixed by this community.
start here:
http://maemo.gitorious.org
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2010-08-21
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I agree with everybody else, a little too strict, and too fast. Besides before you complain about people breaking rules and the resulting punishments, you should probably make sure you aren't breaking any either.
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2010-08-21
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Draconic, even for me.
Many people ramble on with obviously good intentions. They think they help adding their own experiences.
IMO, a 72 font warning every login would do more. "Bugzilla is not a forum. Each message generates mail. Keep it shoort and useful".
Many people ramble on with obviously good intentions. They think they help adding their own experiences.
IMO, a 72 font warning every login would do more. "Bugzilla is not a forum. Each message generates mail. Keep it shoort and useful".
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N900 dead and Nokia no longer replaces them. Thanks for all the fish.
Keep the forums clean: use "Thanks" button instead of the thank you post.
I am suggesting a really strict policy: 1 month ban for first piece of noise created and 1 year ban for second.
Any thoughts? comments? if my suggestion is stupid, contribute your better vesion!
Want to know something?
K.I.S.S. approach:
wiki category:beginners. Browse it through and you'll be much wiser!
If the link doesn't help, just use
Google Custom Search