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2012-04-11
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#712
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With their current market share Nokia's and MS' ad depts should concentrate on hipster dollar: You have heard of this OS, but have you seen anyone actually using it?
That should get the ball rolling
That should get the ball rolling
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2012-04-11
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Originally Posted by GrimyHR
So you love Symbian, but you hate the phone it's installed in ?
no
symbian fanboys does not mean nokia fanboys, i dont like nokia as a company but i "love" symbian and consider it a best smartphone OS no matter if its on a nokia, SE or a samsung
and maemo fanboys=gnu/linux fanboys and not nokia fanboys
You don't make much sense Grimy.
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2012-04-11
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Originally Posted by specc
i dont hate the phone, i "love" symbian powered devices, that does NOT mean that i have to like nokia as a company and their decisions
So you love Symbian, but you hate the phone it's installed in ?
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2012-04-11
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Originally Posted by specc
WM had between 2 and 3 % market share in European countries, except Germany where it was about double that.
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And this. WP has 1% share on statcounter in Europe. Not much, but a twice as much as 4 months ago.[...]
WP has barely been able to keep WM users in the m$ camp in absolute numbers...
not going to bother how much they lost excactly, but if they are down to 1% (maybe only with WP, WM still selling too?) they stagnate, at best...
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2012-04-11
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Originally Posted by misterc
Nokia has sold 2 mill Lumias. This is in Europe and Lumia 800 mostly I presume. This is not bad considering the small number of countries it has been sold in, and the short time it has been available.
WM had between 2 and 3 % market share in European countries, except Germany where it was about double that.
WP has barely been able to keep WM users in the m$ camp in absolute numbers...
not going to bother how much they lost excactly, but if they are down to 1% (maybe only with WP, WM still selling too?) they stagnate, at best...
Overall it does not look all that good for Nokia I must admit. But it's not all black, Lumia and WP IS gaining momentum whether you like it or not.
Add: WM had 2-3 % market share at a time when smartphones had 5-10 % market share. Now WP has 1% market share when smartphones have 60% market share. You cannot compare market share like that. WM was "big" in a completely different world, smartphone vise.
Last edited by specc; 2012-04-11 at 19:20.
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2012-04-11
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Nokia has sold 2 mill Lumias. This is in Europe and Lumia 800 mostly I presume. This is not bad considering the small number of countries it has been sold in, and the short time it has been available.
I think whether it gains momentum or not depends on lumia 900 sales in the US.
I guess they will have at least 5% market share til the end of the year.
If nokia survives it
Won't be easy though since apollo is late and the galaxy3 will make the 900 look like childs play.
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2012-04-11
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One thing to remember though:
US - 300 mil
China+India - ~3 bil
It's really cute US sales are all this thread is about (and EU with similarly niche numbers), Elop's Asha and next billion plan seems like a great long-term investment (not many CEOs do that as it doesn't increase their immediate return peronally, kudos). Get the brand and quality recognized with feature phones, wait for them to start the smartphone boom as experienced in the west. Numbers can get upside down in a year if same happens there.
US - 300 mil
China+India - ~3 bil
It's really cute US sales are all this thread is about (and EU with similarly niche numbers), Elop's Asha and next billion plan seems like a great long-term investment (not many CEOs do that as it doesn't increase their immediate return peronally, kudos). Get the brand and quality recognized with feature phones, wait for them to start the smartphone boom as experienced in the west. Numbers can get upside down in a year if same happens there.
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2012-04-11
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One thing to remember though:
US - 300 mil
China+India - ~3 bil
It's really cute US sales are all this thread is about (and EU with similarly niche numbers), Elop's Asha and next billion plan seems like a great long-term investment (not many CEOs do that as it doesn't increase their immediate return peronally, kudos). Get the brand and quality recognized with feature phones, wait for them to start the smartphone boom as experienced in the west. Numbers can get upside down in a year if same happens there.
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2012-04-11
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Just check their last intro to Asha (mwc was it, or...), cheap phones with most expected features for cheap(for now) markets. With their quality HW they will build their brand much better than iOS for the communist party members as a sign of power/influence. We're not talking about the BMW riding class of chinese, but mass users. This is where the fight is now.Some 300 mil opf adults using phones, not 300 mil including children and elderly
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symbian fanboys does not mean nokia fanboys, i dont like nokia as a company but i "love" symbian and consider it a best smartphone OS no matter if its on a nokia, SE or a samsung
and maemo fanboys=gnu/linux fanboys and not nokia fanboys