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2011-02-13
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Originally Posted by mmurfin87
Is that before or after you've struggled to click through dozens of ads while connected to the 2G network at the breakneck speed of 14.4 kbps and missed half a dozen calls because you don't live in a 3G/3.5G area?
Absolutely, no doubt at all.
None of these, either together or separately, are required parts of an operating system.
All an operating system really is required to do is allow a user to run programs of their choice. ANYTHING beyond that qualifies as smart.
Zune: A huge catalog of drm-free music at competitive prices. Also available is the Zune Pass, of which I've been a subscriber for a few years now. I can download whatever I want, whenever I want, wherever I want, and however much of it I want. No hassles. I get to pick 10 of my favorite songs each month and they're mine forever, no questions asked. I can have only my phone, and stream the vast majority of songs available on the marketplace seamlessly. If I'm at my computer I can use the fantastic software client to manage/buy/play my music. If I'm at the library, I can log into the zune website and stream music through the web browser. I mean the abilities are astounding! Plus every night I go to bed, plug in my phone right beside me nowhere near my computer, but when I wake up the next morning all my new music and podcasts from the computer are magically on my phone. New pictures and music I have on my phone are on my computer.
I can go on, and I probably will to correct some of the blatant idiocy I'm reading in this forum, but for now I'm going to get some pizza.
Let's face it at £5 for 1GB usage cap and the total lack of interest shown by the networks in investing in their infrastructure, it's gonna be a costly, painful experience, and that pizza is gonna get cold pretty quick.
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2011-02-13
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Originally Posted by stickymick
There aren't ads anywhere on the Zune service.
Is that before or after you've struggled to click through dozens of ads while connected to the 2G network at the breakneck speed of 14.4 kbps and missed half a dozen calls because you don't live in a 3G/3.5G area?
Let's face it at £5 for 1GB usage cap and the total lack of interest shown by the networks in investing in their infrastructure, it's gonna be a costly, painful experience, and that pizza is gonna get cold pretty quick.
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2011-02-13
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Originally Posted by mmurfin87
Refuting your love letter to WP7 would be, as Crashdamage said, clearly pointless, but can you at least answer this one: why would you have to use a specific, proprietary software just to transfer a bunch bytes to your device? Name me one good reason.
There aren't ads anywhere on the Zune service.
And do you consider that as a feature of a good/smart/whatever platform? Honestly?
P.S. And what happens when/if one day the creator of that software decides to fill it with ads, or decides to prevent you to use that software to upload to your device (is it yours?) anything that is not on their own tightly controlled servers?
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2011-02-13
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Originally Posted by zwer
I believe that's in the future roadmap for WP7.
P.S. And what happens when/if one day the creator of that software decides to fill it with ads, or decides to prevent you to use that software to upload to your device (is it yours?) anything that is not on their own tightly controlled servers?
I'll see if I can dig up the link where I read it, but apparently there's going to be a few "failsafes" built in, so if you do manage to block the ads service there will be other methods of retrieval built into the O/S
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2011-02-13
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Originally Posted by mece
Elop answers this question plus others:
noteworthy bit of information: Stephen Elop is the 7th largest single person Microsoft shareholder, and own no Nokia stock whatsoever.
I hope legal action will be taken. it's not too late to undo this (ok probably it is, but one can dream)
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/l...a-at-mwc-2011/
"About me being the 7th largest shareholder in Microsoft: that is not true. That would be a substantial amount of money that I don't have... when I moved from Microsoft from Nokia, I was legally prohibited from selling my shares. As soon as that lifted, I began selling. But when our discussions began, I had to stop selling again -- the laws are very clear. As soon as the legal restrictions lift, of course I'll sell those shares. I have been given an equity position in Nokia" but that won't be disclosed until later in the year for some financial and legal reasons."
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2011-02-13
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Originally Posted by horus
I am browsing this forum from my n900, you cannot even copy and paste.
This is my 2 cents;
As a consumer I have been using Windows Phone 7 back since I reviewed it in November and I must say I love the operating system. It is fast and ridiculously responsive. I have turned on my N900 from time to time and it is painstaking how slow it is. As for 'features' it's not really missing much except USB OTG. The app market though is very healthy, the current fastest growing out of the major three.
From a Developer perspective there are other bonuses too; the platform is ridiculously easy to develop for and the tools are world class. Microsoft are renowned in the business for making their developer tools outstanding and the ones for Windows Phone 7 are no exception. I personally love developing for the platform.
From a world wide approach it makes sense. From a competitive advantage point of view the Maemo / MeeGo customers couldn't competitively sustain a company like Nokia and they needed to change.
'nuff said.
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2011-02-13
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Originally Posted by vi_
My guess is that it's "'nuff said" about the user. I don't own an N900, but I copy and paste to this forum all the time from my N800.
I am browsing this forum from my n900, you cannot even copy and paste.
'nuff said.
Edit: Oh, by "you", you mean the user of the WP7 OS. As in, "I, owner of the N900, can cut and paste, and you -- WP7 user -- can't."
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Just want to share my current experience here.
I am currently using MSN messenger/live for the first time in ages and it keeps putting adverts in to my conversations for smiley packs. This is not my idea of a good experience.
As for xbox intergation... Well if I can play Xbox games, then it really does not interest me. (a silly comment I know but what's the point if getting Live updates for your mates gamertags? I have an xbox for that)
I am currently using MSN messenger/live for the first time in ages and it keeps putting adverts in to my conversations for smiley packs. This is not my idea of a good experience.
As for xbox intergation... Well if I can play Xbox games, then it really does not interest me. (a silly comment I know but what's the point if getting Live updates for your mates gamertags? I have an xbox for that)
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2011-02-13
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www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12427680
according to this, meego is still going ahead, symbian will be replaced by WM8.
i don't see the problem, iOS and andriod are growing in market share, symbian is dying and WP7 is the easy alternative. With Microsoft bing and other services it seems like a good idea. Ship some WM8, while symbian 'burns' and give meego the time it needs this way it won't end up like Maemo did. While a lot of jobs will be lost and the merger seems like a 'conspiracy' Nokia is a buisness, and i for one think that if this buisness plan of Elops means that Meego will have longer to prepare so therefore less bugs and better UI, I'M ALL FOR IT!
according to this, meego is still going ahead, symbian will be replaced by WM8.
i don't see the problem, iOS and andriod are growing in market share, symbian is dying and WP7 is the easy alternative. With Microsoft bing and other services it seems like a good idea. Ship some WM8, while symbian 'burns' and give meego the time it needs this way it won't end up like Maemo did. While a lot of jobs will be lost and the merger seems like a 'conspiracy' Nokia is a buisness, and i for one think that if this buisness plan of Elops means that Meego will have longer to prepare so therefore less bugs and better UI, I'M ALL FOR IT!
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Also, it's wrong that anything beyond that qualifies as smart. Take Nokia's S40, for example. It can run applications, it even supports some basic multitasking for built-in applications... Is that enough of "anything beyond that" to make it a smartphone OS? No. Certainly not. Nor are the tricks WP7 can perform enough to make it a smartphone OS.
On the contrary: Most everywhere "service integration" is an euphemism for vendor lock in. (Or does your XBox integration work with your Wii or PS3?) Vendor lock in is one of the things you want to escape by using a smartphone. For easy tasks like syncing contacts etc., some 'dumb' featurephones require you to either install an application provided by the manufacturer or use the manufacturer's cloud service. - A serious smartphone helps you break these chains and use whatever standard-compliant sync-mechanism you used before. It just drops in.