That's nothing to do with the terminal "app". Those are external commands that may or may not make sense with the N9.

They're useful shell commands - it doesn't make sense, in my opinion, to say that they might not make sense to have on a computer - and I insist on the term computer here because that's what good modern phones are, in any sense of the word, and if we start thinking of them as such things would be a lot better. It's not like the N9 is so pressed for space that the upstart package of which initctl is a part couldn't be included.

Now, that said - I'm not disagreeing that it probably didn't make sense in the minds of the developers of the N9 at Nokia to include it, but that's another discussion.

It is below the semi-visible menu icon.

Just realized that PR 1.1 does not add copy and paste to the X-Term, but instead an updated X-terminal application that just became available today, after PR 1.1, adds this feature.

I don't see this yet since I haven't yet updated my X-terminal.

Yeah, you need to accept this Terminal update.

Interesting -- I've never used the "start" and "stop" commands before. I'm used to the (probably more archaic) "bg", "fg", and "ctrl-z" triplet. These job control commands are designed specifically for use with terminals; each terminal has a list of processes associated with it, with at most one designated as the "foreground" process (and, therefore, able to receive input from and send output to the terminal itself). If a process is currently running in the foreground of the terminal, you "suspend" it by hitting control-Z; it should then stop running (giving control of the terminal screen back to the terminal application). To bring the process back to the foreground, you'd use "fg", and the process will begin running again. If you want the process to keep running, but don't want to hand control of the terminal screen to it, you'd use "bg" instead, which starts it running again but in the background.

If you suspend or background multiple processes, you'll eventually end up having to choose which one you want to fg or bg. This is done by giving an argument, "fg %X", where X is the job number for the process. The command "jobs" gives you the current process list with job numbers.

Finally, running a program with the "&" tag at the end starts it off running in the background of the terminal rather than in the foreground, so that kinda ties in to all this as well.

Anyway, the whole "fg" and "bg" job control set should be available on just about any Unix system. I think it's even a Posix standard...

Hmm.. never heard of "start" and "stop" in the context of shell job control (we have the key shortcuts as well as bg, fg, jobs, etc.)

In N900 /sbin/start and /sbin/stop are symlinks to initctl, which is UPSTART. I have no idea if the N9 has upstart or init or systemd or who-knows-what.

Hence my "it may or may not make sense on the N9".

Start and Stop works fine on the N9.. you just need to /sbin/start or /sbin/stop.. Just which they'd put restart there too.. but anyway no problem with those two

What is a bit irritating with update is that keyboard commands does not work.. like ctrl+c and ctrl+v.. also selecting with the arrow keys are not supported.

Oh, right! Yeah, that really has nothing to do with terminals. I've really never played with the bootup sequence on my n900...