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#121
Hm
I did hold some hope for limo back in the day...
tizen even for a bit...
'buntu I still hold some small hope they won't hatchet job that hope...

But ..I gotta admit ....another linux derivative that is run by a corp has me leery ..
Look at the abandonment of our devices by Nokia ...and their desire to bury (for right or wrong) ...anything concerning the NIT ...It hasn't helped us (to say the least).....just for example

Better to have a community that works together to accomplish a good platform...
rather than what a corp can decide to take away at any whim.

As far as android goes ...it is fun to play with....but I can't say I would personally want it as an alternative.

All that being said I am intrigued by your Vodaphone idea of compat hardware...and indeed if porting maemo to another device were possible I would be interested...to extrapolate ...I have been mucking about with maemo on touchscreen convertible tablet pc (toshiba portege m780)...using martinez work....making a good mess of it too

mind when I say I am leery of corps..
To be more specific ....
I am leery of vodaphone and their practices and how the future will play out there.

ie. - http://techrights.org/2009/09/27/vod...microsoft-tax/
ie.
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#122
iF WILL BE NO MAEMO ON THE NEW N900..... i WIll UNTIL...THE LAST DAY OF MY LIFE
 

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#123
that is devotion.
But from what has been said by those working on it... no one has said it is impossible to port maemo to the neo900 yet.
So maemo should be available for the neo900.
At worst case scenario...that (god forbid) it can't be ported...
There are many other distro alternatives to put on the neo900 which would still make me blissfully happy.

install and play with it on pc?...sure. ..I've been messing with it since it was pointed out to me...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuIrRoRPufc

Phone or handheld MID devices that run maemo 5 already exist...
there is the Optima
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MINd4bQyvBg
picked this youtube clip for the soundtrack..
Of course getting one may be a trick.
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PIMP MY N8X0
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http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAY
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PRO
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325

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#124
iF WILL bE NO MAEMO ON NEO N900.....?WHY SHOULD i BYE IT?
 
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#125
Um...you do mean "buy it" right?
I can hear you perfectly clearly too...no need to shout...I'm right next to you.
Sharp...I do commiserate with you...I love my n900 to bits...
Heck I still got a thing for the old n8x0's interface...retro vintage in this day and age...
So there is maemo 3 , maemo 4, and maemo 5...I love them all...wish Nokia hadn't of junked the platforms...wish they'd have made them a little less constricted with proprietary bits and locked up sections....but that is the hand we are dealt.

Anyway...for starters...lets say the laws of nature went wacko and...the sun turned electric-blue and maemo couldn't be put on the new neo900.
(It isn't fact...just hypothesizing here.)
All the benefits stated are still there in the neo900.
Form factor we all love...with the physic keyboard....resistive touch. etc.
same old n900...just better...with nothing locked up...no black boxes...no intrusive corp. bits....as open as the wild plains of Saskatchewan
.sure-sure It isn't completely open..some things can't be helped ...but it is a more open device than just about everything else out there shy of only the openmoko line...or the pyra.
As a topper ...with less corp. proprietary bits caging us in (like now with the n900)...making things difficult and awkward ...let alone wishing to run a variety of alt. operating systems properly...
Hands down (even without maemo os on it) ...it will still be the better alternative to an android, winphone, iphone, googlephone, tizen(I believe), firefox or 'buntu phone .
I'd rather have the neo900 with my freedom of choice...than all the corp. proprietary locked-up octo-core phones on the planet.
But that is my feeling on the matter.
I'm convinced.
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THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGS
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N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAY
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242gb ON N800
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PRO
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325

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#126
@SHARP66: Please use capitals correctly. It's the way we do things here.

The Neo900 is a device for linux aficionados - yes, maemo would be good to have but there are other ways to get phone functionality besides maemo. But as always, it is about choice and not wanting an Neo900 without maemo is perfectly valid.
 

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#127
Quick question...
Will it be a problem that Neo900 is going to have dual-touch, with the same screen but a different controller? How will the operating system handle dual-touch?
Will it be made easier to receive-transmit FM radio in any part of the range, without having to hack its country-related restrictions?
What is "DT"? Device tree?
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#128
This thread is about porting maemo fremantle to other hw platforms than N900. It's considered feasible, given a few hw prerequisites are met, which will be met on Neo900. So I don't see why this negativism in here since a few posts.

@wikiwide:
The kernel level driver will be CRTOUCH specific, the /dev/mouse device is API-compliant. So no problems with using the new dual-touch controller with any usual linux. Fremantle has no OOTB support for multitouch, so it's up to particular apps to use this feature.
FMRX also might be different to N900 on hw level, but API should be pretty similar and V4L2-compliant. The restrictions you mentioned are on a sw level and thus it's up to the implementation in fremantle-ported if they apply.
DT == Device Tree

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#129
https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Neo900_...s_from_Mozilla
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=701784#c53

In short: when you're part of FPTF and need support from Neo900 UG, please contact us - ideally on IRC:freenode/#neo900.
If you're not yet "part of the team" but consider you might want to help, pretty please contact freemangordon who's team leader of FPTF. We need more developers helping to make the porting happen.

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#130
Well..hum...sigh.
I hardly consider myself developer material like you guys.
However or whatever way you think I can help...
just tell me and I'm there.
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3 nexus 5's : 1 with Lineage ( intend maemo leste when ready) , 1 with Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Plasma Mobile


PIMP MY N8X0
Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAY
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PRO
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
 

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