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2010-03-16
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Originally Posted by Texrat
The bit I got confused over -
Originally Posted by qgil- For those caring about the platform in depth, Harmattan =! MeeGo.
Originally Posted by Texrat
okay, sorry. misread your message. I read it like you'd said Quim had commented that Harmattan was not MeeGo. Hence my confusion.
You cite Quim, then gloss over his comment that Harmattan is not MeeGo.
Mistaken, as you've shown. cheers.
Last edited by Freemantle; 2010-03-16 at 15:43. Reason: clear up confusion
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2010-03-16
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Originally Posted by Freemantle
!= means the opposite of "equals". Harmattan really isn't MeeGo. But then again the APIs is should be close enough to call it an "instance of MeeGo" or something. The motivation of _calling_ Harmattan MeeGo was to get marketing behind one brand.
okay, sorry. misread your message. I read it like you'd said Quim had commented that Harmattan was not MeeGo. Hence my confusion.
Mistaken, as you've shown. cheers.
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Originally Posted by Freemantle
Welll... he did say that (=! should have been !=, but it means not equal either way), which is the problem. But again, this appears to be a technical interpretation vs a marketing interpretation.
okay, sorry. misread your message. I read it like you'd said Quim had commented that Harmattan was not MeeGo. Hence my confusion.
Mistaken, as you've shown. cheers.
This debacle is making me nuts.
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2010-03-16
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Originally Posted by Texrat
But, wait, you have not reached the bottom of it, Intel calls Moblin 2.2 MeeGo just as Nokia calls Maemo 6 MeeGo, bringing the number of identically named, but technically different MeeGo's we're talking about to three. We have a Marklar on our hands
It's obvious that, in this case, Nokia IS contributing to FUD. Harmattan is MeeGo and yet it's not.
This is getting ugly.
(I updated my previous post)
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2010-03-16
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Originally Posted by attila77
Cripes.
But, wait, you have not reached the bottom of it, Intel calls Moblin 2.2 MeeGo just as Nokia calls Maemo 6 MeeGo, bringing the number of identically named, but technically different MeeGo's we're talking about to three. We have a Marklar on our hands
Looks to me like MeeGo needs additional qualifiers to clear this up.
MeeGo Netbook 1.0. MeeGo Mobile Computer 1.1. MeeGo WTF Plus.
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2010-03-16
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Originally Posted by attila77
You forgot all the MeeGo UXs (netbook vs handheld) and all the different vendor productised MeeGos. For the majority of people UI = OS and they will be very confused.
But, wait, you have not reached the bottom of it, Intel calls Moblin 2.2 MeeGo just as Nokia calls Maemo 6 MeeGo, bringing the number of identically named, but technically different MeeGo's we're talking about to three. We have a Marklar on our hands
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2010-03-16
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Originally Posted by Texrat
This is the I told you so part
Cripes.
Looks to me like MeeGo needs additional qualifiers to clear this up.
MeeGo Netbook 1.0. MeeGo Mobile Computer 1.1. MeeGo WTF Plus.
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2010-03-16
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Originally Posted by attila77
I knew I thanked that for a reason.
This is the I told you so part
Looks like we found you a platform, Mr. Council Candidate.
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2010-03-16
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It was said that Harmattan will be Debian based, so here's how I interpret that:
Harmattan isn't step 5 of 5. It's step 4.5 of 5. Or, maybe, it's step 5 of 6. Oh, I don't know. I think my hair is turning blonde.
But until someone puts a MeeGo version number on Harmattan, the confusion won't stop, so I'll do it:
Harmattan == MeeGo .8
And it shall be written, that no matter how brief, that MeeGo will also be Debian based. And it shall be the Über handheld/netbookthingy GNU/Linux 'cause it will also support GTK. And throughout the land, everyone will have a pony and will live happily ever after.
My work here is done.
Harmattan isn't step 5 of 5. It's step 4.5 of 5. Or, maybe, it's step 5 of 6. Oh, I don't know. I think my hair is turning blonde.
But until someone puts a MeeGo version number on Harmattan, the confusion won't stop, so I'll do it:
Harmattan == MeeGo .8
And it shall be written, that no matter how brief, that MeeGo will also be Debian based. And it shall be the Über handheld/netbookthingy GNU/Linux 'cause it will also support GTK. And throughout the land, everyone will have a pony and will live happily ever after.
My work here is done.
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