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Originally Posted by Stskeeps
He is not but apparently the guy who posted the comment is, Bernd Wachter. Engineer at jolla.
He's not a Jolla employee and that facebook group is not official.
Some other comments he made:
"I am a Jolla employee. This statement should not be read as "the device will be locked""
"I can only repeat what I already said: This statement is supposed to be read as 'the average customer lacks the skill to hack the kernel', and to emphasize that we never announced that we will lock the device. Before you get annoyed with us: Please check sources when reading news articles, to see if there might be translation errors from Finnish articles. Re-read carefully, especially when english is not your mother-tongue, and bear in mind that some or all parties involved in the interview might not be native speakers as well."
"Please read my comments, I already clarified it in more than one post. One last time: According to Merriam-Webster dictionary one definition of 'able' is 'having sufficient power, skill, or resources to accomplish an object'. If you apply this definition to the sentence mentioned you should come to the conclusion that the statement was "Consumers don't have the skill to hack the device", not -- what you constantly repeat -- consumers will be prevented from hacking the device."
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2012-07-19
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Originally Posted by crisscross
I can confirm that Bernd is an employee and this is accurate.
He is not but apparently the guy who posted the comment is, Bernd Wachter. Engineer at jolla.
Some other comments he made:
"I am a Jolla employee. This statement should not be read as "the device will be locked""
"I can only repeat what I already said: This statement is supposed to be read as 'the average customer lacks the skill to hack the kernel', and to emphasize that we never announced that we will lock the device. Before you get annoyed with us: Please check sources when reading news articles, to see if there might be translation errors from Finnish articles. Re-read carefully, especially when english is not your mother-tongue, and bear in mind that some or all parties involved in the interview might not be native speakers as well."
"Please read my comments, I already clarified it in more than one post. One last time: According to Merriam-Webster dictionary one definition of 'able' is 'having sufficient power, skill, or resources to accomplish an object'. If you apply this definition to the sentence mentioned you should come to the conclusion that the statement was "Consumers don't have the skill to hack the device", not -- what you constantly repeat -- consumers will be prevented from hacking the device."
Think 'developer mode' that doesn't suck and enables you to flash own OS/kernel if you want.
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2012-07-19
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Originally Posted by crisscross
Thank-you. Which was exactly my point in my first post here...
"Please read my comments, I already clarified it in more than one post. One last time: According to Merriam-Webster dictionary one definition of 'able' is 'having sufficient power, skill, or resources to accomplish an object'. If you apply this definition to the sentence mentioned you should come to the conclusion that the statement was "Consumers don't have the skill to hack the device", not -- what you constantly repeat -- consumers will be prevented from hacking the device."
Originally Posted by Stskeeps
Exactly, the people that still don't get this but have been reading the main thread & other main sources.
I can confirm that Bernd is an employee and this is accurate.
Think 'developer mode' that doesn't suck and enables you to flash own OS/kernel if you want.
Well, I can only assume they have very poor reading comprehension or they just enjoy flame-baiting.
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2012-07-19
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Originally Posted by jalyst
Bang on the money with both points.
I can only assume they have very poor reading comprehension or they just enjoy flame-baiting.
Easier to argue here where you have a captive audience, than at the pub where you might get a black eye for you stupidity...
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2012-07-19
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Generally speaking, people seem to have forgetten that this is a tiny startup that suddenly got 10k+ twitter followers and a flood of interviews and media attention from all the way to the Wall Street Journal.
Their communication capabilities have been totally overreached. Lets just wait until they got something to show and judge them on that basis. Right now I would prefer that they communicate even less and instead focus on finishing the product and business plans. Both the positive hype and (especially) scepticism on maemotalk has gone totally overboard.
Their communication capabilities have been totally overreached. Lets just wait until they got something to show and judge them on that basis. Right now I would prefer that they communicate even less and instead focus on finishing the product and business plans. Both the positive hype and (especially) scepticism on maemotalk has gone totally overboard.
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2012-07-19
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Might I suggest that they try to get their PR message together and put it on an official website or something rather than badly translated interviews and random posts on twitter and facebook?
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2012-07-19
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That's reasonable, but it doesn't excuse the sheer FUD due to folks who can't or won't read.
Not talking about the MANY MORE who haven't read or know, not entirely their fault.
Not talking about the MANY MORE who haven't read or know, not entirely their fault.
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2012-07-19
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Originally Posted by jalyst
FUD? if Jolla knew the basics of communication things would be much better.
That's reasonable, but it doesn't excuse the sheer FUD due to folks who can't or won't read.
Not talking about the MANY MORE who haven't read or know, not entirely their fault.
What he did was to say one thing, then turn 180 degree and say what he really meant was the opposite! Grow up! or at least learn basic communication. Stop talking in half finished sentences and half truths is a good start.
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2012-07-19
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looking at the responses here i can honestly say i totally agree with the tags...sometimes its about broadening your own vision...
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