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#51
Am like you using it as a private phone or seconad phone not for work of course and frankly I do not rely on web browser too much just some mods am happy with as normal phone and hope to have a solution for it's browsers in the near future.
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#52
" and hope to have a solution for it's browsers in the near future. "

Really.

Come on guys...

How many times must it be said.

Mozilla, Opera, Google are NOT coming back to update, make a new and better browser ...or anything of the sort.

The chances that an upstart new browser that has been developed specifically for the n900 ...is very very remote.
Likewise the chances that something just happening along ...that will work...on our hardware are equally remote.

There are 5 options.

#1 - Do nothing ..."hoping" something new will magically come around that miraculously works for us ...and until then live with what you have.
(and I wish you luck with that....I suggest you take a real good look at the last date the n900 browsers were updated and maintained by the dev's who ran them...It is so long ago ...they either work for other companies...got married...went into retirement homes...or are dead and buried...)

#2- Research and look at the effort it takes to build a browser...
If you think you can handle it ...go for it.

#3- Better still...
READ the helpful posts of those who have managed to make the browser slightly more functional....apply their wisdom and tweak what you have so that it gains a tiny bit more usability.

#4- Even Better-er .
Use an alternate os on your n900 ...
ie: one of the chroot variants of Easy Debian or Kali or....whatever is the most current ..
..which will give you a much better browser experience.

#5- Better-est still...
Petition Qole or one of the other Chroot Masters ...to make a chroot of Antix for the n900...
It has the best chance of running fluidly, with excellent compatibility, and a can have a very very small footprint ...
as in:
"it'll run on a toaster" ...
"it'll run on grandpa's wind-up pocket watch"
hell it needs so little resources to run...
I wouldn't be surprised if it could run off of two electrodes stuck in a potato...
So requirement - wise....it should have no problem whatsoever running on the n900
and it is a rolling release os ..much easier to keep up with ..

All told it should be lighter and smoother and faster in resources than Easy Debian or Kali...

And that means that all functions ...including ..browsing should be extremely fast.



So ..choice is yours...

you can be reactive and you can wait and hope all you wish...

or you can be proactive and do something about it.
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#53
Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post
#4- Even Better-er .
Use an alternate os on your n900 ...
ie: one of the chroot variants of Easy Debian or Kali or....whatever is the most current ..
..which will give you a much better browser experience.
Alternate OS is a solution. But for phone call support, that's another question! Anyway, the lack of 4G support is REALLY a problem now.

Of course Maemo OS is not the problem, that's the hardware...
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#54
How is lack of 4g a problem? It would only be a problem if 3g was shut down
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#55
Yup...
It certainly doesn't help does it.
As a basic phone... some low impact functions like mail and texting and rss news feeds etc....3g is ok....but yes ...at this rate ...with all the very heavy sites ...that require more oomph ...it is getting bad....
Eventually...at this rate...the n900 will end up being a glorified n8x0... good for calls...but for everything else....wifi ...will be needed....
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-1 no telephony (perfect for permanent set-up as mini-pc with one of my monitors)
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PIMP MY N8X0
Everything you need tightly explained in layman's terms ..in an easy to understand format.. and a video walkthrough to boot.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAY
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634

THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PRO
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567

AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
 

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#56
Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post
Yup...
It certainly doesn't help does it.
As a basic phone... some low impact functions like mail and texting and rss news feeds etc....3g is ok....but yes ...at this rate ...with all the very heavy sites ...that require more oomph ...it is getting bad....
Eventually...at this rate...the n900 will end up being a glorified n8x0... good for calls...but for everything else....wifi ...will be needed....
I feel like it would be simpler (for a non-dev/beginner dev/general user) to set up a proxy that compresses images, strips JS, ads, etc. rather than using the browser as is/hoping for someone else to do it.

If I start using my n900 again as a main phone one day, that's probably the route I'll go.

Wouldn't be a problem if people designed their sites properly and didn't just throw in heaps of javascript libraries/frameworks "just because", and actually worked on making their sites small, fast, useful.
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  • Translink Brisbane script (time to bus/train)
  • Commbank client (check balance)
  • Uber (basic client, request ride, etc)
 

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#57
Originally Posted by azkay View Post
I feel like it would be simpler (for a non-dev/beginner dev/general user) to set up a proxy that compresses images, strips JS, ads, etc. rather than using the browser as is/hoping for someone else to do it.

If I start using my n900 again as a main phone one day, that's probably the route I'll go.

Wouldn't be a problem if people designed their sites properly and didn't just throw in heaps of javascript libraries/frameworks "just because", and actually worked on making their sites small, fast, useful.
It just works
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#58
HAHHAHHHHAAHHHHAHAAHAAHAHAHAAHAA
That was funny ...
enough so that it made me snort my coffee through my nose .
Thank you Mr_P.

and yup ....truth.

No need to make things harder for people.


Dillo and dooble are great....and for search there is the staid old..."Duck Duck Go"

Simple and clean.
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-1 no telephony (perfect for permanent set-up as mini-pc with one of my monitors)
half a neo900 pre- "bought"....due for production any day now.


PIMP MY N8X0
Everything you need tightly explained in layman's terms ..in an easy to understand format.. and a video walkthrough to boot.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAY
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634

THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PRO
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567

AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
 

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#59
I suppose it is the natural bureaucracy of things just to become more complex to the point of uselessness.

https://youtu.be/0B61_5sRoBI
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-1 no telephony (perfect for permanent set-up as mini-pc with one of my monitors)
half a neo900 pre- "bought"....due for production any day now.


PIMP MY N8X0
Everything you need tightly explained in layman's terms ..in an easy to understand format.. and a video walkthrough to boot.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAY
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634

THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PRO
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567

AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
 

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#60
Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post
I suppose it is the natural bureaucracy of things just to become more complex to the point of uselessness.

https://youtu.be/0B61_5sRoBI


How ironic
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