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2011-09-29
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#132
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That is patently false. There's a metric buttload of Qt software running on Windows, and for most of it you wouldn't even have a clue that it uses Qt.
There are probably more Qt applications running on Windows than there are applications that use Microsoft's own toolkits.
There are probably more Qt applications running on Windows than there are applications that use Microsoft's own toolkits.
Originally Posted by TheLongshot
Bad example. Yes, Visual Studio has different languages, but ultimately it is all based on a common SDK. Non-standard SDKs on Windows (Qt, GTK+, tkinter) are second class citizens. People don't develop with those on Windows unless they have to. They also don't have much in common.
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2011-09-29
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#133
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Originally Posted by zimon
Isn't RPM still inferior?
For example, Debian and Ubuntu, move to use LSB compliant rpm already and stop being stubborn.
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2011-09-29
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Originally Posted by don_falcone
Both formats/tools have areas where they excel and areas where they are less than great. As a trivial example, rpm -qf beats dpkg -S hands down. Oh, and delta-rpms, when deployed properly, rock :-)
Isn't RPM still inferior?
IMHO it's a stalemate that will never be resolved unless/until someone comes up with a better alternative and blows both out of the water.
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2011-09-29
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Originally Posted by don_falcone
Nowadays I think it is superior. I use both "weekly/daily".
Isn't RPM still inferior?
rpm (at least in Fedora) uses transactions to make sure the system stays consistent even if something nasty like battery goes empty middle of upgrading.
Also secure wise it is more secure policy to have GPG singatures embedded (like in rpm) in each software package than have all packages unsigned and then just whole distribution GPG-signed (like in deb). The deb policy leaves practically nasty MITM vulnerability which has often seen also in t.m.o.
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2011-09-29
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Originally Posted by volt
You don't know what you are talking about with VS. Everything is built on top of the Windows API. As for Delphi, that is also built on the Windows API.
Well, I think it is a good example. I.e. because Visual Studio do not natively use the Windows APIs, but you have to import them if especially interested. Also because software like OpenOffice is made in something completely different, and in addition to Java, there is or has been wide usage of other IDEs like Delphi.
On Windows you have a lot of choices. That's the main point.
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2011-09-29
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Originally Posted by tkatchev
You are stretching the realm of believability with that comment.
There are probably more Qt applications running on Windows than there are applications that use Microsoft's own toolkits.
Also, Qt on Windows does use the Windows API to acheve some of the native look.
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2011-09-29
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Originally Posted by TheLongshot
Sure, but iOS, android, webOS and Qt are different SDKs that all already have a mobile interface. Not saying that supporting them is easy (especially the platform dedicated ones), but we're not talking about supporting many desktop SDKs but rather many already mobile SDKs.
It also doesn't make sense to support many SDKs, particularly since it would be a custom job to adapt the SDK to a mobile interface.
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2011-09-29
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#139
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So, now we are just waiting for announcement, about prototype tizen device "lend" program, for talented developers etc... And some naive dev guys just following another twist 
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2011-09-29
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Originally Posted by caa
ITYM Linux with one toolkit is better than Linux with several. I beg to differ (eg I believe Maemo to have been much superior to Qtopia, precisely because of this freedom of choice), but in any case Tizen's native toolkit appears to be EFL.
Linux-with-Qt-required is BETTER than Linux-with-any-and-EVERY-toolkit-going, for mobile purposes.
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