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Let me know where and when it becomes available, so I can avoid that site like the black plague.
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Originally Posted by polossatik
Can't say for sure, but I'd guess so.
Did not found a thread about this that really is about this topic, if there is one please shoot me
I wonder if there
a) are indeed a lot of ITT users who ordered the pandora would like to see maemo on the Pandora
b) if the Maemo Community Council would consider to propose to have the pandora as a device listed on maemo.org, which would allow the infrastructure to be used also for the Pandora.
c) If there are poeple with real deep "os skills" who would be interested in actually making a Maemo port to the pandora happening and make some kind of "base distro" for the pandora.
Oh, and I think we have more software available than Angstrom, so it's also a big practical benefit.
d) if the SDK would would need adaptation to support a "pandora" maemo version.
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a.) I know I would
b.) Don't know
c.) There was a thread on gp32x.com talking about that.
d.) a little
A lot of pandora users are interested in the huge base of software that comes along with maemo and I think it would be beneficial to both communities...
However maemo is not 100% open source and some parts would have to be rewritten. Drivers would also have to be rewritten.
All in all with the coming OMAP3 NIT this would give us compatible software for the OMAP3 NIT before it is out (or closely compatible)
b.) Don't know
c.) There was a thread on gp32x.com talking about that.
d.) a little
A lot of pandora users are interested in the huge base of software that comes along with maemo and I think it would be beneficial to both communities...
However maemo is not 100% open source and some parts would have to be rewritten. Drivers would also have to be rewritten.
All in all with the coming OMAP3 NIT this would give us compatible software for the OMAP3 NIT before it is out (or closely compatible)
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2008-10-12
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@ John
Yeah, forgot to mention that this was actually due a thread on the forum @ openpandora.org
@Benson, you're correct about point b) , but already asking (assuming maemo can be ported) to see if there are any (political? - not sure how much Nokia is involved in the actual maemo.org stuff) reasons.
I'm afraid I can't shuff out this month another 250 euro to buy you a pandora, sorry
my GF finds that I already spend enough at "toys" ...
Edit: is there somewhere a more or less detailed overview of what exactly is closed source (besides HW drivers?) that may need replacement and where there is none yet?
Last edited by polossatik; 2008-10-12 at 15:24.
Yeah, forgot to mention that this was actually due a thread on the forum @ openpandora.org
@Benson, you're correct about point b) , but already asking (assuming maemo can be ported) to see if there are any (political? - not sure how much Nokia is involved in the actual maemo.org stuff) reasons.
I'm afraid I can't shuff out this month another 250 euro to buy you a pandora, sorry
my GF finds that I already spend enough at "toys" ...Edit: is there somewhere a more or less detailed overview of what exactly is closed source (besides HW drivers?) that may need replacement and where there is none yet?
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Originally Posted by polossatik
This isn't exactly the role of the council; but I wouldn't support listing a device which *could* run Maemo on there until it did run a feature-complete version which a normal end-user could install without problem.
b) if the Maemo Community Council would consider to propose to have the pandora as a device listed on maemo.org, which would allow the infrastructure to be used also for the Pandora.
As Benson said, this'd be putting the cart before the horse.
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Originally Posted by Jaffa
I clearly posed the Q in a wrong way, basically I would like to know if, assuming the Pandora could "run a feature-complete version which a normal end-user could install without problem.", there would be a problem for a non-nokia device. If so, then the "pandora" distro would need it's own repository/server/... Hence the Q..
This isn't exactly the role of the council; but I wouldn't support listing a device which *could* run Maemo on there until it did run a feature-complete version which a normal end-user could install without problem.
As Benson said, this'd be putting the cart before the horse.
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If Pandora wants something like Maemo, - the people should start putting interest into for example Ubuntu Mobile (see ARM port at mojo.handhelds.org) or Deblet (http://trac.tspre.org/projects/deblet). It should definately be possible to support most applications from Maemo when there's hildon libraries availiable.
For some work relating to this I've worked on recently, see screenshots at http://bsd.tspre.org/~stskeeps/nit-debian/hildlet6.png (Hildon+Advanced Backlight+xterm), http://bsd.tspre.org/~stskeeps/nit-debian/hildlet4.png (Network-manager + hildon), http://bsd.tspre.org/~stskeeps/nit-d...let-mobile.png (Ubuntu Mobile packages on Deblet).
Debian and Ubuntu are already ported to armel decently, so it's just a matter of people starting to help out with making packages, environments, etc for the tablets. But there's a lot of work to be done, power consumption problems, getting the stuff user friendly, and so on.
But I guess the new open devices will help this development..
For some work relating to this I've worked on recently, see screenshots at http://bsd.tspre.org/~stskeeps/nit-debian/hildlet6.png (Hildon+Advanced Backlight+xterm), http://bsd.tspre.org/~stskeeps/nit-debian/hildlet4.png (Network-manager + hildon), http://bsd.tspre.org/~stskeeps/nit-d...let-mobile.png (Ubuntu Mobile packages on Deblet).
Debian and Ubuntu are already ported to armel decently, so it's just a matter of people starting to help out with making packages, environments, etc for the tablets. But there's a lot of work to be done, power consumption problems, getting the stuff user friendly, and so on.
But I guess the new open devices will help this development..
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps
I was just going to post that I think it would make more sense to see Ubuntu Mobile on Pandora, than Maemo.
If Pandora wants something like Maemo, - the people should start putting interest into for example Ubuntu Mobile (see ARM port at mojo.handhelds.org)
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps
Sorry to insist but I'm a bit confused now, seen Meamo is already (IMHO) rather "user friendly" and great with power consumption (on my N800 anyway) so why then not use this instead of trying to make those other distro's more "like meamo"?
If Pandora wants something like Maemo, - the people should start putting interest into for example Ubuntu Mobile (see ARM port at mojo.handhelds.org) or Deblet (http://trac.tspre.org/projects/deblet). It should definately be possible to support most applications from Maemo when there's hildon libraries availiable.
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But there's a lot of work to be done, power consumption problems, getting the stuff user friendly, and so on...
Or do I miss something obvious?
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I wonder if there
a) are indeed a lot of ITT users who ordered the pandora would like to see maemo on the Pandora
b) if the Maemo Community Council would consider to propose to have the pandora as a device listed on maemo.org, which would allow the infrastructure to be used also for the Pandora.
c) If there are poeple with real deep "os skills" who would be interested in actually making a Maemo port to the pandora happening and make some kind of "base distro" for the pandora.
d) if the SDK would would need adaptation to support a "pandora" maemo version.
Last edited by polossatik; 2008-10-12 at 12:54.