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2009-09-20
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i don't know if my update scripts - script failed but i had a problem with eula-script. Went to command line and found out that Setup_Scratch_Sources didn't have +x needed for its execution. and also not found -stuff:
e: same problem with Install_Nokia_Binaries
just forget this if i've messed things myself up.
Last edited by ossipena; 2009-09-20 at 06:57.
maemo@maemo-desktop:~/Maemo_Install/Scripts/Install$ sh Nokia_EULA
Nokia_EULA: 3: source: not found
Nokia_EULA: 4: CheckNetwork: not found
Nokia_EULA: 5: UpdateScripts: not found
Nokia_EULA: 6: CheckforScratchbox: not found
Please wait, loading Nokia EULA website...
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When you close the browser & editor this window will close.
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just forget this if i've messed things myself up.
Last edited by ossipena; 2009-09-20 at 06:57.
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2009-09-20
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Originally Posted by ossipena
It sounds like you don't have the network working. Network is required as it will pull down like another 500 megs of files from Nokia's server.
i don't know if my update scripts - script failed but i had a problem with eula-script. Went to command line and found out that Setup_Scratch_Sources didn't have +x needed for its execution. and also not found -stuff:
e: same problem with Install_Nokia_Binaries
just forget this if i've messed things myself up.
The initial script would have pulled down fixed scripts (including fixing the Setup_Scratch_Sources). Part of the design was to be self updating so that if I made some mistake (like forgetting the +x on that script) I could easily fix it so that you don't have to pull down another "600" megs of a VM image. ;-D
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2009-09-20
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Originally Posted by Nathan
i'm glad to hear that i have given you new ideas
WOW! I have to say, you have just made me sit back and totally rethink my direction . See: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=31892
Also, QT/Creator is available as a Native Windows app; so you don't have to run it as a Cygwin/x application. Unless you want to.
the beauty about using qtcreator from the VM is that you only have to set DISPLAY in the project's run environment to :2.0 and hit Run, instead of having to worry about syncing two repositories.
and it's not much slower, at least as far as i can tell.
i am currently at a stage where i'm trying to get my bearings, since i have no experience with C++ yet. i come from the "easy" side (java/.net) so im only doing very basic stuff wich doesn't compile long
in any case, the main issue is the speed of the virtual machine, if it's usable inside it's most likely gonna work over a remote X on the VM host. that's just a little more overhead
(different story for graphic-intense projects of course)i'm using it on a pentium 4 and find it usable for what little i am doing, and that's an ancient CPU in todays terms
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2009-09-20
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Originally Posted by SubCore
Actually VJ speed is pretty good on my machine; I just hate the mouse "grab" issue. And it would be nice to use QT outside the VM to do all the development.
i'm glad to hear that i have given you new ideas
the beauty about using qtcreator from the VM is that you only have to set DISPLAY in the project's run environment to :2.0 and hit Run, instead of having to worry about syncing two repositories.
and it's not much slower, at least as far as i can tell.
i am currently at a stage where i'm trying to get my bearings, since i have no experience with C++ yet. i come from the "easy" side (java/.net) so im only doing very basic stuff wich doesn't compile long
in any case, the main issue is the speed of the virtual machine, if it's usable inside it's most likely gonna work over a remote X on the VM host. that's just a little more overhead
i'm using it on a pentium 4 and find it usable for what little i am doing, and that's an ancient CPU in todays terms
Rsync would sync the source code very quickly; probably be un-noticeable.
Display; all I have to do is grab the machines ip and pass that into the vm, so it would be ip:2.0 (if I recall correctly). So that shouldn't be an issue either.
Nathan
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2009-09-20
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hm i think i didn't explain what i'm doing very well
i'm not running xephyr or qtcreator under cygwin (that would probably require a rebuild), i'm just sending their output to the XWin server of cygwin/x.
this is the short VM startup skript (to demonstrate):
so, for qtcreator everything stays the same, :2 is the xephyr inside the VM, only that xephyr itself forwards to XWin.
this way, there's no mouse grab issue, either.
of course, it still suffers a performance hit, so to develop natively under windows setting up scripts and a qtcreator-plugin as you are planning is the only way.
but what about maemo-specific libraries? can they be imported to work with qtcreator under windows? as i said i'm new to C++, so this might be as easy as including the header files...
i'm not running xephyr or qtcreator under cygwin (that would probably require a rebuild), i'm just sending their output to the XWin server of cygwin/x.
this is the short VM startup skript (to demonstrate):
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#!/bin/sh export DISPLAY=windowshost:0.0 Xephyr :2 -host-cursor -screen 800x480x16 -dpi 96 -ac -kb & gnome-terminal --command="/bin/bash -c '~/Maemo_Install/Scripts/Development/Start_x86_Scratchbox'" & /home/maemo/qtsdk-2009.03/bin/qtcreator &
this way, there's no mouse grab issue, either.
of course, it still suffers a performance hit, so to develop natively under windows setting up scripts and a qtcreator-plugin as you are planning is the only way.
but what about maemo-specific libraries? can they be imported to work with qtcreator under windows? as i said i'm new to C++, so this might be as easy as including the header files...
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2009-09-21
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Originally Posted by SubCore
No.
but what about maemo-specific libraries? can they be imported to work with qtcreator under windows? as i said i'm new to C++, so this might be as easy as including the header files...
if Nathan decide to go for a windows QtCreator plugin, he can't get rid of the virtual machine.
It is necessary to compile/build/debug code.
And a windows Xserver client will be necessary to see maemo sdk runtime (much like in a native linux development machine).
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2009-10-02
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We need to get some blogs to post an article that it is now easier than ever to start developing for maemo5 if your a windows user. I'm going to email a few that I know of, and everyone should do the same!
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2009-10-06
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Any updates on this? Will this use the latest release of the SDK?
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2009-10-06
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OKay, I tried redownloading the 7z and when I run step 1 (install scratchbox, a window opens for a second and then closes). And there is no Maemo Install folder on the desktop. Step 2 does the same thing.
I'm on Windows 7 64 bit, and I followed the instructions on the wiki. Any help greatly appreciated.
I'm on Windows 7 64 bit, and I followed the instructions on the wiki. Any help greatly appreciated.
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Also, QT/Creator is available as a Native Windows app; so you don't have to run it as a Cygwin/x application. Unless you want to.
Nathan.