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iDont's of iPhone, copied from Amazon.com discussion forum:
SOFTWARE:
Web:
1. iDon't reflow text.
2. iDon't offer a real web experience, most sites identify me as a phone.
3. iDon't save web pages for offline viewing, i'm missing apps.
4. iDon't have audio/video streaming for 90% of the multimedia sites.
5. iDon't handle any in-browser applications or games.
6. iDon't have Flash.
7. iDon't handle JavaScript fast enough.
8. iDon't have JavaScript settings/disabling.
9. iDon't have instant messaging , i'm missing apps.
10. iDon't have push e-mail, iOnly sync, draining a lot of power.
11. iDon't process HTML attachments correctly.
12. iDon't have user privacy, every online action is parsed through safari servers.
File management:
13. iDon't download content for offline playback, except through iTunes.
14. iDon't have access my own folders by any means.
15. iDon't even have access to mp3/custom ringtones.
16. iDon't handle Flash applications.
17. iDon't have MIDP/JAVA support.
18. iDon't handle DivX, XviD, FLV native video, i'm missing apps.
19. iDon't handle ZIP, RAR or SFX, i'm missing apps.
20. iDon't have a real office suite, i'm missing apps.
21. iDon't get searching right, neither for files nor in-text, i'm missing apps.
Connectivity:
22. iDon't handle videocall.
23. iDon't handle VoIP support for Wi-Fi.
24. iDon't handle tethering, must pay extra to the carrier.
25. iDon't send MMS right, iShow wrong sender number.
26. iDon't A2DP (BT stereo) lags on videos, my power-hungry cpu is useless!
27. iDon't AVRCP Bluetooth Profile - only some headsets work.
28. iDon't support any services when pairing with a MacBook.
29. iDon't have any BT file sharing my BT is almost useless!
User Interface:
30. iDon't have a scalable UI.
31. iDon't have parallax (finger/screen offset) adjusting (enhances precision).
32. iDon't have desktop customization/widgets and shortcuts.
33. iDon't really have a "snappy" UI, iHide my slugishness with animations & transitions.
Operating System:
34. iDon't have a real operating system, I'm firmware-based.
35. iDon't have multitasking, my power-hungry cpu is useless!
36. iDon't have any power optimization.
37. iDon't allow open development.
38. Idon't have proper platform security.
39. iDon't have proper application security.
Misc:
40. iDon't handle handwriting.
41. iDon't have a built-in TO-DO(app) like any other device - buy one!
42. iDon't have apps developed for my useless power-hungry HW.
43. iDon't have freeware, iTunes treats free applications like purchases + FairPlay DRM wrap.
HARDWARE:
Screen:
44. iDon't have any feedback whatsoever.
45. iDon't have any precision compared to resistive touchscreens.
46. iDon't have enough ppi (163 pixels per inch while decent monitors today have at least 200ppi & you're not holding them as close as me)
47. iDon't have a decent resolution(320x480), i'm stretched too much(3.5") and sometimes look pixelized.
48. iDon't have a bright enough screen.
Power:
49. iDon't have enough mAh(~1200MAX) - smallest battery from the cpu range (actual value is less).
50. iDon't have full day coverage with one charge.
51. iDon't have USB charging without an adapter.
52. iDon't have any safety garment for the battery (overheating, swelling + cracking the screen from the inside and even blowing up reported).
53. iDon't have warranty for damage made by "external" force aka. the above.
Connectivity:
54. iDon't have DLNA.
55. iDon't have HSCSD.
56. iDon't have full HSDPA speed.
57. iDon't have a decent GSM/GPS/WiFi signal, only strong interference & poor audio.
58. iDon't care about the kids that use me, iHave a 1.4W/kg SAR (1.6 = risk of cancer)
59. iDon't have standard connectivity, instead use my custom overpriced accessories.
60. iDon't give a damn about the environment: short cables but tons of iAccesories.
61. iDon't have a standard headset jack (although it looks like one).
62. iDon't have micro USB, iUse a proprietary connector.
63. iDon't have IR.
Storage:
64. iDon't have a Micro-SD slot.
65. iDon't have USB addressable storage.
66. iDon't have fast SDRAM; why Intel? it's slow, cheap & they are far from other flash memory manufacturers.
Media/camera:
67. iDon't have stereo speakers.
68. iDon't have a decent speakerphone for voicemail playback.
69. iDon't have radio.
70. iDon't have FM transmitter.
71. iDon't record video above VGA, my power-hungry cpu is useless!
72. iDon't have hi-res camera (72 DPI, less than other 3mp phones).
73. iDon't have exposure control.
74. iDon't provide enough DPI for OCR on A4 pages.
75. iDon't have a front camera.
76. iDon't have a light sensor.
77. iDon't have a flash.
Design:
78. iDon't eject my sim without a special key.
79. iDon't have a removable battery (hard reset required if iGet stuck and you have to be a service engineer to reach my battery)
80. iDon't like beeing typed on on a table, iWobble.
81. iDon't have kick-stand for watching movies.
82. iDon't stand on my own for timed/group photos.
83. iDon't have hot swappable memory.
SOFTWARE:
Web:
1. iDon't reflow text.
2. iDon't offer a real web experience, most sites identify me as a phone.
3. iDon't save web pages for offline viewing, i'm missing apps.
4. iDon't have audio/video streaming for 90% of the multimedia sites.
5. iDon't handle any in-browser applications or games.
6. iDon't have Flash.
7. iDon't handle JavaScript fast enough.
8. iDon't have JavaScript settings/disabling.
9. iDon't have instant messaging , i'm missing apps.
10. iDon't have push e-mail, iOnly sync, draining a lot of power.
11. iDon't process HTML attachments correctly.
12. iDon't have user privacy, every online action is parsed through safari servers.
File management:
13. iDon't download content for offline playback, except through iTunes.
14. iDon't have access my own folders by any means.
15. iDon't even have access to mp3/custom ringtones.
16. iDon't handle Flash applications.
17. iDon't have MIDP/JAVA support.
18. iDon't handle DivX, XviD, FLV native video, i'm missing apps.
19. iDon't handle ZIP, RAR or SFX, i'm missing apps.
20. iDon't have a real office suite, i'm missing apps.
21. iDon't get searching right, neither for files nor in-text, i'm missing apps.
Connectivity:
22. iDon't handle videocall.
23. iDon't handle VoIP support for Wi-Fi.
24. iDon't handle tethering, must pay extra to the carrier.
25. iDon't send MMS right, iShow wrong sender number.
26. iDon't A2DP (BT stereo) lags on videos, my power-hungry cpu is useless!
27. iDon't AVRCP Bluetooth Profile - only some headsets work.
28. iDon't support any services when pairing with a MacBook.
29. iDon't have any BT file sharing my BT is almost useless!
User Interface:
30. iDon't have a scalable UI.
31. iDon't have parallax (finger/screen offset) adjusting (enhances precision).
32. iDon't have desktop customization/widgets and shortcuts.
33. iDon't really have a "snappy" UI, iHide my slugishness with animations & transitions.
Operating System:
34. iDon't have a real operating system, I'm firmware-based.
35. iDon't have multitasking, my power-hungry cpu is useless!
36. iDon't have any power optimization.
37. iDon't allow open development.
38. Idon't have proper platform security.
39. iDon't have proper application security.
Misc:
40. iDon't handle handwriting.
41. iDon't have a built-in TO-DO(app) like any other device - buy one!
42. iDon't have apps developed for my useless power-hungry HW.
43. iDon't have freeware, iTunes treats free applications like purchases + FairPlay DRM wrap.
HARDWARE:
Screen:
44. iDon't have any feedback whatsoever.
45. iDon't have any precision compared to resistive touchscreens.
46. iDon't have enough ppi (163 pixels per inch while decent monitors today have at least 200ppi & you're not holding them as close as me)
47. iDon't have a decent resolution(320x480), i'm stretched too much(3.5") and sometimes look pixelized.
48. iDon't have a bright enough screen.
Power:
49. iDon't have enough mAh(~1200MAX) - smallest battery from the cpu range (actual value is less).
50. iDon't have full day coverage with one charge.
51. iDon't have USB charging without an adapter.
52. iDon't have any safety garment for the battery (overheating, swelling + cracking the screen from the inside and even blowing up reported).
53. iDon't have warranty for damage made by "external" force aka. the above.
Connectivity:
54. iDon't have DLNA.
55. iDon't have HSCSD.
56. iDon't have full HSDPA speed.
57. iDon't have a decent GSM/GPS/WiFi signal, only strong interference & poor audio.
58. iDon't care about the kids that use me, iHave a 1.4W/kg SAR (1.6 = risk of cancer)
59. iDon't have standard connectivity, instead use my custom overpriced accessories.
60. iDon't give a damn about the environment: short cables but tons of iAccesories.
61. iDon't have a standard headset jack (although it looks like one).
62. iDon't have micro USB, iUse a proprietary connector.
63. iDon't have IR.
Storage:
64. iDon't have a Micro-SD slot.
65. iDon't have USB addressable storage.
66. iDon't have fast SDRAM; why Intel? it's slow, cheap & they are far from other flash memory manufacturers.
Media/camera:
67. iDon't have stereo speakers.
68. iDon't have a decent speakerphone for voicemail playback.
69. iDon't have radio.
70. iDon't have FM transmitter.
71. iDon't record video above VGA, my power-hungry cpu is useless!
72. iDon't have hi-res camera (72 DPI, less than other 3mp phones).
73. iDon't have exposure control.
74. iDon't provide enough DPI for OCR on A4 pages.
75. iDon't have a front camera.
76. iDon't have a light sensor.
77. iDon't have a flash.
Design:
78. iDon't eject my sim without a special key.
79. iDon't have a removable battery (hard reset required if iGet stuck and you have to be a service engineer to reach my battery)
80. iDon't like beeing typed on on a table, iWobble.
81. iDon't have kick-stand for watching movies.
82. iDon't stand on my own for timed/group photos.
83. iDon't have hot swappable memory.
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2009-12-01
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#43
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Originally Posted by SmartMic
Too late for that. Posting that the iPhone is ahead in all smartphones is a pretty guaranteed way of getting a discussion going in a competing device's discussion board.
I don't want this to end up in an N900 vs. iPhone discussion. Think there are already some in different threads.
For my needs, I just did not want to wait any longer and I am really happy with the decision to get an iPhone instead. After all, this was my plan B.
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2009-12-01
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@ Finland
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#44
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Sorry mate but wait any longer? This Friday is the day for most countries... only couple days left 
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2009-12-01
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Originally Posted by Black Plowman
So I take it you don't like the iPhone much then?! I'm currently using an iPhone and your points have just made me more anxious to receive my pre ordered N900! iPhone is sooo dated now, and like someone said earlier, everyone has one...
iDont's of iPhone, copied from Amazon.com discussion forum:
SOFTWARE:
Web:
1. iDon't reflow text.
2. iDon't offer a real web experience, most sites identify me as a phone.
3. iDon't save web pages for offline viewing, i'm missing apps.
4. iDon't have audio/video streaming for 90% of the multimedia sites.
5. iDon't handle any in-browser applications or games.
6. iDon't have Flash.
7. iDon't handle JavaScript fast enough.
8. iDon't have JavaScript settings/disabling.
9. iDon't have instant messaging , i'm missing apps.
10. iDon't have push e-mail, iOnly sync, draining a lot of power.
11. iDon't process HTML attachments correctly.
12. iDon't have user privacy, every online action is parsed through safari servers.
File management:
13. iDon't download content for offline playback, except through iTunes.
14. iDon't have access my own folders by any means.
15. iDon't even have access to mp3/custom ringtones.
16. iDon't handle Flash applications.
17. iDon't have MIDP/JAVA support.
18. iDon't handle DivX, XviD, FLV native video, i'm missing apps.
19. iDon't handle ZIP, RAR or SFX, i'm missing apps.
20. iDon't have a real office suite, i'm missing apps.
21. iDon't get searching right, neither for files nor in-text, i'm missing apps.
Connectivity:
22. iDon't handle videocall.
23. iDon't handle VoIP support for Wi-Fi.
24. iDon't handle tethering, must pay extra to the carrier.
25. iDon't send MMS right, iShow wrong sender number.
26. iDon't A2DP (BT stereo) lags on videos, my power-hungry cpu is useless!
27. iDon't AVRCP Bluetooth Profile - only some headsets work.
28. iDon't support any services when pairing with a MacBook.
29. iDon't have any BT file sharing my BT is almost useless!
User Interface:
30. iDon't have a scalable UI.
31. iDon't have parallax (finger/screen offset) adjusting (enhances precision).
32. iDon't have desktop customization/widgets and shortcuts.
33. iDon't really have a "snappy" UI, iHide my slugishness with animations & transitions.
Operating System:
34. iDon't have a real operating system, I'm firmware-based.
35. iDon't have multitasking, my power-hungry cpu is useless!
36. iDon't have any power optimization.
37. iDon't allow open development.
38. Idon't have proper platform security.
39. iDon't have proper application security.
Misc:
40. iDon't handle handwriting.
41. iDon't have a built-in TO-DO(app) like any other device - buy one!
42. iDon't have apps developed for my useless power-hungry HW.
43. iDon't have freeware, iTunes treats free applications like purchases + FairPlay DRM wrap.
HARDWARE:
Screen:
44. iDon't have any feedback whatsoever.
45. iDon't have any precision compared to resistive touchscreens.
46. iDon't have enough ppi (163 pixels per inch while decent monitors today have at least 200ppi & you're not holding them as close as me)
47. iDon't have a decent resolution(320x480), i'm stretched too much(3.5") and sometimes look pixelized.
48. iDon't have a bright enough screen.
Power:
49. iDon't have enough mAh(~1200MAX) - smallest battery from the cpu range (actual value is less).
50. iDon't have full day coverage with one charge.
51. iDon't have USB charging without an adapter.
52. iDon't have any safety garment for the battery (overheating, swelling + cracking the screen from the inside and even blowing up reported).
53. iDon't have warranty for damage made by "external" force aka. the above.
Connectivity:
54. iDon't have DLNA.
55. iDon't have HSCSD.
56. iDon't have full HSDPA speed.
57. iDon't have a decent GSM/GPS/WiFi signal, only strong interference & poor audio.
58. iDon't care about the kids that use me, iHave a 1.4W/kg SAR (1.6 = risk of cancer)
59. iDon't have standard connectivity, instead use my custom overpriced accessories.
60. iDon't give a damn about the environment: short cables but tons of iAccesories.
61. iDon't have a standard headset jack (although it looks like one).
62. iDon't have micro USB, iUse a proprietary connector.
63. iDon't have IR.
Storage:
64. iDon't have a Micro-SD slot.
65. iDon't have USB addressable storage.
66. iDon't have fast SDRAM; why Intel? it's slow, cheap & they are far from other flash memory manufacturers.
Media/camera:
67. iDon't have stereo speakers.
68. iDon't have a decent speakerphone for voicemail playback.
69. iDon't have radio.
70. iDon't have FM transmitter.
71. iDon't record video above VGA, my power-hungry cpu is useless!
72. iDon't have hi-res camera (72 DPI, less than other 3mp phones).
73. iDon't have exposure control.
74. iDon't provide enough DPI for OCR on A4 pages.
75. iDon't have a front camera.
76. iDon't have a light sensor.
77. iDon't have a flash.
Design:
78. iDon't eject my sim without a special key.
79. iDon't have a removable battery (hard reset required if iGet stuck and you have to be a service engineer to reach my battery)
80. iDon't like beeing typed on on a table, iWobble.
81. iDon't have kick-stand for watching movies.
82. iDon't stand on my own for timed/group photos.
83. iDon't have hot swappable memory.
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2009-12-01
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#46
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Originally Posted by Butterfly
You forgot to say one I don't for the Iphone people
So I take it you don't like the iPhone much then?! I'm currently using an iPhone and your points have just made me more anxious to receive my pre ordered N900! iPhone is sooo dated now, and like someone said earlier, everyone has one...
I don't own a N900
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2009-12-01
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Who are you again?
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I have both the iPhone 3GS and the N900 FYI
I prefer the N900 a lot more than the iPhone. Used iPhone for 2 weeks, didn't really like it, it's too basic, I felt like a noob.
The iPhone 3GS is now located in a dark corner of my desk. I consider the iPhone as a low-end gaming device best use of its accelerometer with some phone features.
Other than that, iPhone is rubbish.
Why bother with iPhone when developers are ditching Apple and move elsewhere? The apps have reached its height. It's all downhill from now for iPhone.
I prefer the N900 a lot more than the iPhone. Used iPhone for 2 weeks, didn't really like it, it's too basic, I felt like a noob.
The iPhone 3GS is now located in a dark corner of my desk. I consider the iPhone as a low-end gaming device best use of its accelerometer with some phone features.
Other than that, iPhone is rubbish.
Why bother with iPhone when developers are ditching Apple and move elsewhere? The apps have reached its height. It's all downhill from now for iPhone.
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My 5 year old son is starting to use my iPod touch more than I do. I'm almost full time with my n8x0's. And after two years they're still getting better every day. I have another 6 months with my Apple iPhone developers license. Not sure if I'm gonna renew it. Also, every three months I have to renew this thing called a Provisioning Profile for the device. If I don't, I can't develop on the device and all my non App Store apps expire and become unuseable. Unless, of course, I go back in time. That's what I call iFun.
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Anyone who says the iPhone is ahead of all other smartphones is probably way better of with the iPhone than then N900 anyways. The iPhone isn't really a smartphone in the way most people define a smartphone at all. The only reason its being called a Smartphone is because the term smartphone has no formal definition and as of such, most phones out there today can be referred to as smartphones.
I dont think I have to mention what the iPhone does and does not do, but basically, my conclusion is as follows:
What the iPhone does, it does very well, but there are just so many things it does not do. For the target audience, this is perfect, because they dont need all that many smartphone features and just want a slick, nice phone with a touchscreen.
However, me being a linux loving, gadget freak, I woulndt be caught dead with an iPhone as I personally dont even consider it a smartphone.
I dont think I have to mention what the iPhone does and does not do, but basically, my conclusion is as follows:
What the iPhone does, it does very well, but there are just so many things it does not do. For the target audience, this is perfect, because they dont need all that many smartphone features and just want a slick, nice phone with a touchscreen.
However, me being a linux loving, gadget freak, I woulndt be caught dead with an iPhone as I personally dont even consider it a smartphone.
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Well I think openssh asks you to choose a new password (not sure about that though). So maybe not exactly, but same line of attack if the NIT and n900 were to be vulnerable.