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Is there a section to talk about Java ME? Apps, etc. (3)
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2010-09-18
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Originally Posted by theonelaw
If you use the search, there is some discussion about DRM in the next Nokia device or next Maemo version (or now: MeeGo version). That is just discussion though, and before judging, read into it.
And what are the odds Meego units will need jailbreak kits?
none, I hope - as long as we get them from retailers instead of
locked into some carrier feeding pipe.
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2010-09-18
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Originally Posted by theonelaw
There can't be a need for something that doesn't exist.
I wondered if there was ever a need to jailbreak the n900.
Did anyone get an n900 phone locked into or out of some service?
Looks like only the competitor phones get to be jailbroken...
Back to the original question though -
if the n900 does not need to be jailbreak,
does that mean it it impossible to jailbreak?
Is there any competition in the "no need to jailbreak" market?
My take is that the n900 is simply the only phone in existence that
can be completely reworked from the cli
(including just plunking a spanking different OS into it,
but did I miss something?
And what are the odds Meego units will need jailbreak kits?
none, I hope - as long as we get them from retailers instead of
locked into some carrier feeding pipe.
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2010-09-18
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You can't Jailbreak the N900 but the N900 can Jailbreak a PS3 
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2010-09-18
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Originally Posted by wmarone
I took this as an entirely valid question: If some company were to come out with a locked version of the N900, would it be possible to jailbreak it?
I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume English is not your first language. Obviously, if something does not need to be Jailbroken, whether it is possible to Jailbreak it is an entirely moot question.Back to the original question though -
if the n900 does not need to be jailbreak,
does that mean it it impossible to jailbreak?
The answer is "yes". With the N900, it doesn't matter what sort of OS locks are on it, as it can be reflashed to the default OS in about 10 minutes.
It would be just about impossible to "lock" the N900 in any way, other than requiring some piece of software to run on some specific network, in which case you'd have a choice of "unlocked, but only if you don't want to use network x", or "locked if you are using network x"
That is, unless someone managed to reverse-engineer whatever bit of code had to be run to connect.
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2010-09-18
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Originally Posted by wmarone
Vodafone. Big corporation. Vodafone where? Here they don't even sell Nokia N900.
Not even the N900s sold by Vodaphone were locked in any way.
Depends on the retailer, and the handset vendor. If Nokia sticks with what they've said, you won't need to Jailbreak anything you buy from them. If you go through other vendors, you may. If you go through a carrier, who knows (you probably will.)
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2010-09-18
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Originally Posted by RobbieThe1st
Sure, but no such device exists.
I took this as an entirely valid question: If some company were to come out with a locked version of the N900, would it be possible to jailbreak it?
The answer is "yes". With the N900, it doesn't matter what sort of OS locks are on it, as it can be reflashed to the default OS in about 10 minutes.
Originally Posted by allnameswereout
Ah yes. Anyway, they did in the UK.
Vodafone. Big corporation. Vodafone where? Here they don't even sell Nokia N900.
Ehm, thats not what I've read. What I read (in more tactical words) is that there will be subsidized phones, and that some here won't like that. Subsidized phones are simlocked (by definition) and may be jailed. Harmattan is expected to support the latter.
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2010-09-18
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what about the modem part? It is closed isn't it?
...just theoretical speculation how sim lock could be done... But it doesn't affect to other system much (modem online vs modem offline) or am I wrong?
...just theoretical speculation how sim lock could be done... But it doesn't affect to other system much (modem online vs modem offline) or am I wrong?
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2010-09-18
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Originally Posted by RobbieThe1st
It is because there were...
I took this as an entirely valid question: If some company were to come out with a locked version of the N900, would it be possible to jailbreak it?
The answer is "yes". With the N900, it doesn't matter what sort of OS locks are on it, as it can be reflashed to the default OS in about 10 minutes.
It would be just about impossible to "lock" the N900 in any way, other than requiring some piece of software to run on some specific network, in which case you'd have a choice of "unlocked, but only if you don't want to use network x", or "locked if you are using network x"
That is, unless someone managed to reverse-engineer whatever bit of code had to be run to connect.
In some markets, N900's did not have access to the FM Transmitter from within that countries firmware. This didn't last long though.
>> http://maemo.org/packages/source/vie...mtx-faker/0.2/If all goes as planned Pinky, MeeGo will rule the world.
...And as a result it will be on many devices that won't necessarily have the need to expose the user to all features. So yes, these MeeGo flavors will need to be "jailbroken" or modified if you want more.
Think, running MPlayer on a TomTom PNA...
MeeGo will also allow distributors to do with it pretty much as they wish so carriers or even different car models from the same manufacturer can have different feature sets. If you want the on board computer in your 328i to have the same features as your dads 760Li it may also have to be "modified"...
But don't worry, I'm sure there will be at least one fellow on the East Side of London who will do it for you rather quickly and for a fee commensurate to your application and his abilities.
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2010-09-18
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Originally Posted by ossipena
Sim locks are done in the baseband, yes. This is why jailbreaks/roots almost always come before a sim unlock, if the sim unlock ever comes.
what about the modem part? It is closed isn't it?
...just theoretical speculation how sim lock could be done... But it doesn't affect to other system much (modem online vs modem offline) or am I wrong?
http://www.salon.com/technology/dan_...nes/index.html
Recognizing that in this current moment
Apple Jailbreak is not the same "as Rooting" Android
(but I cannot help but imagine the ever-rushing fingers of
kleptocacies around the world will change that fact eventually.)
I wondered if there was ever a need to jailbreak the n900.
Did anyone get an n900 phone locked into or out of some service?
Looks like only the competitor phones get to be jailbroken...
But I do see the n900 can be used to jailbreak other gear.
Back to the original question though -
if the n900 does not need to be jailbreak,
does that mean it it impossible to jailbreak?
Is there any competition in the "no need to jailbreak" market?
My take is that the n900 is simply the only phone in existence that
can be completely reworked from the cli
(including just plunking a spanking different OS into it,
but did I miss something?
We do this all the time with computers (I have an old Aigo thingy
that has been reflashed so many times it is dizzy)
But not with handphones.
And what are the odds Meego units will need jailbreak kits?
none, I hope - as long as we get them from retailers instead of
locked into some carrier feeding pipe.
These are very important questions for consumers like myself.