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2013-03-06
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I see the benefit in having someone with Jim's background around but I hope he posts his stand on the appointment soon. People are mostly clueless on who he is.
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2013-03-06
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Originally Posted by SD69
Jim definitely comes across a lot better on "his" personal page then on the wiki page, which isn't much of a feat, of course.
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I suggest people look at his personal page: www.jimjag.com.
maybe he could still create a Maemo account and post what his interest (if any?) in Maemo is respectively how he feel he would contribute?
Originally Posted by SD69
reasonable conclusion, indeed
I considered an election at this time but decided it is best to move on since there will be one later this year.
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2013-03-06
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What we're seeing here is an old-fashioned method of seizing power from SD69. Now that he's the only one, instead of holding an election as required in the constitution (note the election trigger clause has no seven-day time limit), he's appointing His People. woody's probably fine, but the fact that he's bringing in some other guy who can't even be bothered to make a maemo.org account frankly spells the end of any credibility here. This is a pretty common move when you want to make sure that out of two non-SD69 people, one will always vote his way.
This is a total attack on the democratic nature of the Board constitution, and should not be accepted by anyone, including the authorities of the state under whose laws the Foundation is formed.
If you people let him get away with this, you can kiss the Hildon Foundation goodbye. It is 100% SD69's podium from here on out.
This is a total attack on the democratic nature of the Board constitution, and should not be accepted by anyone, including the authorities of the state under whose laws the Foundation is formed.
If you people let him get away with this, you can kiss the Hildon Foundation goodbye. It is 100% SD69's podium from here on out.
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2013-03-06
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Originally Posted by stenny
This is incorrect. Revision 7 of the ByLaws (which is the last revision posted here on the forum, and officially voted in), Section IV, paragraph 6 reads:
note the election trigger clause has no seven-day time limit
If at any point more than one Director is expelled during a single term, or fewer than three (3) Director positions are occupied (not vacant or expulsed) for a period exceeding seven (7) days, a new election cycle shall be required to be announced and will commence immediately.
Originally Posted by stenny
Not quite. In my accepting the position, assuming the appointment is valid, currently there are at least two Directors. Until Jim's public announcement of his acceptance, we both have an equal vote. Meaning for anything to move forward, we must both agree on it, as a conflict will result in deadlock.
If you people let him get away with this, you can kiss the Hildon Foundation goodbye. It is 100% SD69's podium from here on out.
There must also be a voice/video meeting between the three of us, which should happen very soon now. As of yet, I've had no communication with anyone else involved in HiFo, be that other active/appointed Directors or agents of the Board (Treasurer, Communications, etc). To be fair, I've been rather busy and haven't mailed them directly myself either.
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2013-03-06
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Originally Posted by stenny
Time for you to drop your conspiracy hat. Are you running for one of the spots or what?
What we're seeing here is an old-fashioned method of seizing power from SD69. Now that he's the only one, instead of holding an election as required in the constitution (note the election trigger clause has no seven-day time limit), he's appointing His People. woody's probably fine, but the fact that he's bringing in some other guy who can't even be bothered to make a maemo.org account frankly spells the end of any credibility here. This is a pretty common move when you want to make sure that out of two non-SD69 people, one will always vote his way.
This is a total attack on the democratic nature of the Board constitution, and should not be accepted by anyone, including the authorities of the state under whose laws the Foundation is formed.
If you people let him get away with this, you can kiss the Hildon Foundation goodbye. It is 100% SD69's podium from here on out.
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2013-03-06
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Originally Posted by woody14619
Excellent. At least he worked out the obstructions before he played the game.
This is incorrect. Revision 7 of the ByLaws (which is the last revision posted here on the forum, and officially voted in), Section IV, paragraph 6 reads:
Originally Posted by woody14619
And what happens if Jim refuses the appointment, or simply doesn't bother responding? Will there be an election, or will it be more "well, we're having one later anyway, so we'll just sit here for now."
Not quite. In my accepting the position, assuming the appointment is valid, currently there are at least two Directors. Until Jim's public announcement of his acceptance, we both have an equal vote. Meaning for anything to move forward, we must both agree on it, as a conflict will result in deadlock.
Originally Posted by Dave999
Nope! But this isn't the first time we've seen SD69 ruin things. Or are we not allowed to talk about NDAs?
Time for you to drop your conspiracy hat. Are you running for one of the spots or what?
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2013-03-06
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@stenny - the council can always call for elections of both (board and council) bodies, stay cool 
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Nothing is impossible - Stable thumb2 on n900
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2013-03-08
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that stenny guy sounds like a feud of old of this forum, doesn't he...
one who should know all too well how this forum deals with usurpation, whether technical or factual
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2013-03-08
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Originally Posted by freemangordon
There seems to be a misunderstanding.
@stenny - the council can always call for elections of both (board and council) bodies, stay cool
Maemo Community Council is not the same thing as Hildon Foundation Council. It thus has no official relationship to Hildon Foundation Board, and can't call for elections of Hildon Foundation Board or Hildon Foundation Council. It can call for elections of the next maemo council, which seems pointless in my opinion, since Nokia long ago stopped talking to maemo council.
