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2013-12-12
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#1551
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Originally Posted by ARJWright
What about a delayed swipe? Keeping you finger on the screen for aprox 1 sec. and then swipe. We could increase the number of available swipes.
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2013-12-12
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#1552
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Originally Posted by ste-phan
The reason why you aren't given an infinite, or multiple, points of creating your own UX entry points is because that means the entire platform has to be built using all of those points - most of which cannot be analyzed, tested, nor skillfully given to developers in UX docs so that they make apps which conform to whatever *you* design for them.
I see the logic but kindly let me custom configure the whole swipe interface for a selectable one hand profile and a 2 hand profile.
Same with the layers and possibility to open a full browser window in multitask OR tabs OR layers
Why are those devices all trying so hard to control our behavior instead of offering freedom? (I mean out of the box convenience, not only freedom to hack)
Its not impossible, just unrealistic to have a stable platform with a tightly constrained physical environment on even more tightly constrained resources to do that. For laptop/desktop paradigm, sure. Not for mobile(-first) devices.
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2013-12-12
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#1553
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Originally Posted by ARJWright
Not so sure. What we have is a button-less interface.
The reason why you aren't given an infinite, or multiple, points of creating your own UX entry points is because that means the entire platform has to be built using all of those points - most of which cannot be analyzed, tested, nor skillfully given to developers in UX docs so that they make apps which conform to whatever *you* design for them.
Its not impossible, just unrealistic to have a stable platform with a tightly constrained physical environment on even more tightly constrained resources to do that. For laptop/desktop paradigm, sure. Not for mobile(-first) devices.
Then we create buttons with swipe , swirl, double finger swipe, single and double tap, double finger tap, etc...
Devided in clockwise , counter clockwise, up and down, left right.
All I want is to assign these "buttons" per program or interface level to actions like I would do in a flight / fps / tank combo sim or any program that allows deep customization.
Then save as a profile. Wife, toddler, left hand single hand , double hand.
Last edited by ste-phan; 2013-12-12 at 20:07.
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2013-12-12
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@ Vienna, Austria
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#1554
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ste-phan, there's an application for the N9 (My Moves) that gives you a dozen or so additional gestures and lets you define actions for those. In principle the programm is designed so that one gesture starts another application (boooring), but with dbus and shell scripting I was able to define a gesture that calls a certain number instead of just launching the telephone application.
Now in principle, if (and only if) an application like the browser exposes certain features to be controlled via scripting from the outside world, all it would take is "My Moves" to be ported to sailfish and you'd have your very personal additional gestures.
(I know there's two big ifs there... but it's better to approach it from this side, I think, than to break the whole UI concept.)
Now in principle, if (and only if) an application like the browser exposes certain features to be controlled via scripting from the outside world, all it would take is "My Moves" to be ported to sailfish and you'd have your very personal additional gestures.
(I know there's two big ifs there... but it's better to approach it from this side, I think, than to break the whole UI concept.)
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2013-12-12
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#1555
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When discussing additional swipes/gestures - I really miss swirl to zoom that was present in N900 browser. It was nice option for one handed use. I still can not pinch zoom with one hand when walking 
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2013-12-12
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#1556
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Originally Posted by att
Oh well, I'm on the same boat...err...jolla with non-working SMTP connection.
Yes, I also think my problems relate to this.
Pretty annoying and I refuse to use google as work-around.
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2013-12-12
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#1557
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Originally Posted by benny1967
And Bluetooth is too slow for large transfers, and SFTP doesn't win speed races too.
Many PCs just don't have bluetooth at all.
SFTP is out of this world for the average consumer. Have you ever seen anyone who's not a nerd use it?
I'd really like to see USB mass storage support too. Currently I sync my music using Unison between my N9 and office machine. Granted, with a bit of hacking, you might be able to use Unison and SSH to connect over USB/RNDIS to the device, but simply hooking up by mass storage is faster and easier.
It surprised me Jolla left USB mass storage out. I really hope they will reconsider.
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2013-12-12
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#1558
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Originally Posted by zlatko
I miss that too... In fact, I still use it every single day on the N900. But I miss it on new hardware.
When discussing additional swipes/gestures - I really miss swirl to zoom that was present in N900 browser. It was nice option for one handed use. I still can not pinch zoom with one hand when walking
1 step forward 2 steps back is the common denominator in the mobile phone industry.
Also missed are MicroB 's marvelous history browser and to some extend cookie control (demanded or 3rd party, reject, accept for this site), adblock plugin, click to run flash plugin, javascript control (which should have been a front page button on/off button), tab-less operation (open in new window).
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2013-12-12
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#1559
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I wont be checking all pages from this topic so I don't know if this has been said or not but the official youtube app from google play works pretty good, only problem I have noticed is that you can't log in, probably because lacking google services?
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2013-12-12
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@ Hanoi
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#1560
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Originally Posted by RX-51
It may stay silent a little while longer about program access control center on both Sailfish level and Alien Dalvik level.
Originally Posted by ste-phan View Post
Hypothesis:
The virtual layer by Alien Dalvik controls access to the Jolla hardware demanded by random Android applications .
I am worried that this Alien Dalvik layer acts like an Android OS that automatically says "yes, allow" on every request for data access from an Android application.
For "user convenience" AlienDalvik is trusted by Sailfish to access contact details, phone status, GPS, file system, enable network connection etc...hence the Android programs running on top of it are also trusted by default.
The question is, if XPrivacy running on Alien Dalvik would be aware of the other Android programs running on Alien Dalvik? They might as well be running in a separate "box".
I hope somebody can throw in a technical explanation to prove the contrary and show us that Sailfish is not a data grabbing playground for Android applications on the loose.
Thanks
Thanks ste-phan bring my original thoughts to the point, I failed in wording Thanks ste-phan bring my original thoughts to the point, I failed in wording
Maybe the guys that have gotten to work Play store may have better insight already.
On Jollatides there are a few more concerned people but mostly the new toy feeling will prevail.
An AACC Aplication Access Control Centre is what I need to sleep tight.
Be careful guys not to infect your Jolla by Android.
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