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Is there a section to talk about Java ME? Apps, etc. (3)
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2012-07-03
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#62
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Originally Posted by Maemomd
I agree with you here, it seems to me the simplicity of Boot2Gecko (Linux kernel + browser) should make it make it easier to shoe-horn into a device PDQ, especially if Mozilla have done most of the HTML/JS and NOKIA only need to apply a bit of CSS to get up and running.
I am interested in seeing how the new Firefox OS (BoottoGecko) turns out...would be interesting if Nokia used that as a back up. (doubtful)
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2012-07-03
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Originally Posted by switch-hitter
Nokia was toast long before Elop. When the iPhone came, and later Android, the Nokia "body" gave up. Only OPK and some other high ranking stupidity actually believed Nokia could compete. Nokia should have gone Android when everybody else did.
How do you define 'trouble'?
Before Elop destroyed Symbian's marketability NOKIA's sales of Symbian phones was still growing as was the ASP.
On top of that, in terms of revenue, Ovi was bigger than the Android market place and still growing. In fact everywhere other than North America Ovi was bigger than Apple's app store too.
The 'trouble' NOKIA were in before adopting WP7 was a mere trifle compared to the ever accelerating nose-dive they're in now.
As it happends, Android is soon spread so thin due to fragmentation, it is no longer sustainable. But Android and Maemo would be a fine combination.
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2012-07-03
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Plan B is: get Meltemi from the shelves and give it to the Meego\N9 Team
That will happens even if win8 susses "it will as I cant see any reason why it wont! even though I love meego\linux more"
Other than that, I cant see any B plan! as Android can't do any better for Nokia than WP
That will happens even if win8 susses "it will as I cant see any reason why it wont! even though I love meego\linux more"
Other than that, I cant see any B plan! as Android can't do any better for Nokia than WP
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2012-07-03
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There is no plan B for Nokia. It's too late for that. If W8 fails then Nokia fails. Even switching to Android wouldn't help much since it needs time to be modified to look more Nokia like.
They made the worst mistake they could in 2009 by not improving Maemo5 and setting it with the highend devices. Maemo5 needed a little more fluidity and a little better telephony to rock this world. Add to this Symbian in the middle and S40 as low end. Nobody would be able to beat that combination. Now imagine middle 2010 or early 2011, Nokia introduces tablets based on Maemo5. Have you seen a better OS for tablets? I haven't. Even now Android 3 and 4 for tablets reminds sometimes of Maemo5 but it's multitasking is a joke. A pathetic joke.
We're in the middle of 2011 now, Nokia N9 is out. Everyone is amazed by the swipe UI, but there are not enough apps for it. Nokia realizes that and makes something like alien dalvik to port apps from Android to Maemo6. Nokia's on top again.
2012, first Pureview phone is out, next boom in the phone market. Then first dual core Meego phones are released. UI has no hiccups whatsoever, app store is full of apps, symbian is being slowly ditched away to make place for Meego only. Meltemi is getting ready for launch to replace S40. During that moment Nokia while still being on top has a lot of cash so they hire 10 000 people to work on new kind of batteries, in a year time Nokia phones will last 7days without charging and pureview will be minimized so it can fit in a 12mm thick body. Nokia has: best OS, best camera, the biggest amount of apps, best batteries. Now how can you beat that? No way.
But it's already way to late.
They made the worst mistake they could in 2009 by not improving Maemo5 and setting it with the highend devices. Maemo5 needed a little more fluidity and a little better telephony to rock this world. Add to this Symbian in the middle and S40 as low end. Nobody would be able to beat that combination. Now imagine middle 2010 or early 2011, Nokia introduces tablets based on Maemo5. Have you seen a better OS for tablets? I haven't. Even now Android 3 and 4 for tablets reminds sometimes of Maemo5 but it's multitasking is a joke. A pathetic joke.
We're in the middle of 2011 now, Nokia N9 is out. Everyone is amazed by the swipe UI, but there are not enough apps for it. Nokia realizes that and makes something like alien dalvik to port apps from Android to Maemo6. Nokia's on top again.
2012, first Pureview phone is out, next boom in the phone market. Then first dual core Meego phones are released. UI has no hiccups whatsoever, app store is full of apps, symbian is being slowly ditched away to make place for Meego only. Meltemi is getting ready for launch to replace S40. During that moment Nokia while still being on top has a lot of cash so they hire 10 000 people to work on new kind of batteries, in a year time Nokia phones will last 7days without charging and pureview will be minimized so it can fit in a 12mm thick body. Nokia has: best OS, best camera, the biggest amount of apps, best batteries. Now how can you beat that? No way.
But it's already way to late.
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2012-07-03
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Originally Posted by szymeczek34
There is no plan B for Nokia. It's too late for that. If W8 fails then Nokia fails. Even switching to Android wouldn't help much since it needs time to be modified to look more Nokia like.
They made the worst mistake they could in 2009 by not improving Maemo5 and setting it with the highend devices. Maemo5 needed a little more fluidity and a little better telephony to rock this world. Add to this Symbian in the middle and S40 as low end. Nobody would be able to beat that combination. Now imagine middle 2010 or early 2011, Nokia introduces tablets based on Maemo5. Have you seen a better OS for tablets? I haven't. Even now Android 3 and 4 for tablets reminds sometimes of Maemo5 but it's multitasking is a joke. A pathetic joke.
We're in the middle of 2011 now, Nokia N9 is out. Everyone is amazed by the swipe UI, but there are not enough apps for it. Nokia realizes that and makes something like alien dalvik to port apps from Android to Maemo6. Nokia's on top again.
2012, first Pureview phone is out, next boom in the phone market. Then first dual core Meego phones are released. UI has no hiccups whatsoever, app store is full of apps, symbian is being slowly ditched away to make place for Meego only. Meltemi is getting ready for launch to replace S40. During that moment Nokia while still being on top has a lot of cash so they hire 10 000 people to work on new kind of batteries, in a year time Nokia phones will last 7days without charging and pureview will be minimized so it can fit in a 12mm thick body. Nokia has: best OS, best camera, the biggest amount of apps, best batteries. Now how can you beat that? No way.
But it's already way to late.
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2012-07-03
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You are looking at this the wrong way. From a directors prespective a backup plan might not be a new OS or even a new product. It could be a split up, sale of the whole or parts of the company.
Can also be a merge of some kind. Plese look at a wider persective. you are so focused on Oses that you forgets about the business.
Can also be a merge of some kind. Plese look at a wider persective. you are so focused on Oses that you forgets about the business.
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I don't trust poeple without a Nokia n900...
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2012-07-03
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#68
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Originally Posted by Dave999
OK, Plan B:
You are looking at this the wrong way. From a directors prespective a backup plan might not be a new OS or even a new product. It could be a split up, sale of the whole or parts of the company.
Can also be a merge of some kind. Plese look at a wider persective. you are so focused on Oses that you forgets about the business.
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2012-07-03
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Originally Posted by et3rnal
There's no such team to give it to. They've sacked all their Maemo/MeeGo/Meltemi/Linux-in-general people.
Plan B is: get Meltemi from the shelves and give it to the Meego\N9 Team
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2012-07-03
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#70
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Listen up children. Case is closed. Android is Plan B:
Nokia Plan B
I mean, it's obvious. There are no other alternatives.
Update: original source apparently. Maybe some Fins can translate for us?
Last edited by specc; 2012-07-03 at 11:28.
Nokia Plan B
I mean, it's obvious. There are no other alternatives.
Update: original source apparently. Maybe some Fins can translate for us?
Last edited by specc; 2012-07-03 at 11:28.
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Before Elop destroyed Symbian's marketability NOKIA's sales of Symbian phones was still growing as was the ASP.
On top of that, in terms of revenue, Ovi was bigger than the Android market place and still growing. In fact everywhere other than North America Ovi was bigger than Apple's app store too.
The 'trouble' NOKIA were in before adopting WP7 was a mere trifle compared to the ever accelerating nose-dive they're in now.