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#101
Looks like Silverlight will indeed be facing more competition, and not just from Flash. Yay for Java and SVG!

Nokia and Ikivo are partnering to build tools that enable collaboration between graphic designers and software engineers in the development of Java applications for mobile devices.

The announcement, being made Tuesday at the JavaOne conference in San Francisco, features a tool set that integrates Nokia's Platform SDK for Java, Adobe Illustrator, Ikivo Animator, and NetBeans and enables interface designers to add GUI designs to an application project without having to translate those designs to Java code. SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics) is used to capture visual designs for integration into software development projects.
http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/...devices_1.html
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#102
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Looks like Silverlight will indeed be facing more competition, and not just from Flash. Yay for Java and SVG!
Screw Java.
 
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#103
Java FTW!
 
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Choices FTW!
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and didnt sun talk about releasing the last bits of java under GPL?

this can become silly interesting!
 
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Originally Posted by tso View Post
and didnt sun talk about releasing the last bits of java under GPL? this can become silly interesting!
J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 - 97.96 MB
Java (TM) SE Runtime Environment 6.0 - size 134.00 MB

See the pattern? =)
 
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What pattern? Where are those numbers from?
http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp has the JRE around 18 MB download, varies by platform.

Even the JDK (linux, multilanguage, i386) is a 67MB self-extracter. (Remember, it's a compressed filesystem, so while that might decompress to your 134 MB, the actual footprint will be much closer to 67 MB.)
 
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#108
And what will be the memory footprint? I don't write Java (thank you god), but i'm forced to use and administer java clients and servers every day... Guess if i'm positive about them

EDIT: Anyway Java won't perform very good on the tablet, unless there's some sort of acceleration.
 
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Yeah, but this could mean acceleration, if it were deployed to the tablets. And remember, we're comparing to Flash, not lisp. So bad performance is not a horrible disadvantage.
 
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yep, most arm based chips have the ability to run java "natively" iirc...

as for memory footprint, i dont think it will be much worse then what one can get from a big flash element...
 
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