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2018-10-24 , 15:37
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#31
Originally Posted by sulu View Post
I think I remember having read similar things about the quality of the N950.
But I also remember having read about problems with the hinge, like it being too stiff or too loose. Can you confirm that?

And what about my comment on the tilting display? Do you think it's a good or a bad thing?

I always get that feeling when listening to "Wind of Change" by the Scorpions.


You know what? I'd still buy it!
The Neo900 certainly would not fit my definition of "half-decent modern hardware" and quite frankly any more than 1k Euros would push my pain threshold pretty hard, but I still think the attempt alone deserves to be honored and the device would make for a pretty nice "curiosity of computer history" one day.
The hinge feels fine, but I'd have to admit that I have not used it enough to verify durability. I like the tilting display.

I had not realized until recently that the neo900.org home page has a timeline at the bottom. I have taken the liberty of updating it here: https://imgur.com/a/b9Optj3
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2018-10-24 , 16:21
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#32
Man...
I am taking that to work and making it a full wall poster.

That had me laughing until my sides hurt...
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I do not know what the best device for 2020 will be, but hope we have something real stunning.
Raspberry Pi phone?
Finally a Nokia phone with Intel processor arriving a bit late?
Strange mix of Roman and Greek numbers BTW, should it not been MMXX?
 

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#34
Originally Posted by Ken-Young View Post
The hinge feels fine, but I'd have to admit that I have not used it enough to verify durability. I like the tilting display.
Yes, hinge is high quality. Even on N97 (a nightmare SW- and speed-wise) the hinge and build quality (I know we all had that GPS antenna problem!) was very stable and reliable.
I am not sure if I like the one on N900 (straight) or on N950 (tilting) better. After having used N900 after N97 I'd say I perferred the straight one using in hands. But on desk the tilted makes more sense. So 50/50.

I had not realized until recently that the neo900.org home page has a timeline at the bottom. I have taken the liberty of updating it here: https://imgur.com/a/b9Optj3
THANKS for that one
Maybe neo900 team can handle this and put it on their web site?
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Originally Posted by Ken-Young View Post
I had not realized until recently that the neo900.org home page has a timeline at the bottom. I have taken the liberty of updating it here: https://imgur.com/a/b9Optj3
I'm still counting on vacuum fluctuations to either reboot the universe or to spontaneously materialize a Neo900 on my desk.
 

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I look at these Chinese devices and I see design issues. The keyboards have awkwardly placed keys. The placement of the hinge on the GPD Pocket (1 and 2) makes it awkward to use the bottom of the touchscreen.
In case you missed it, GPD have addressed both of these issues in the forthcoming GPD MicroPC. I'd normally be weary about linking to a crowd funding campaign knowing how many people here have been stung, but GPD have a decent track record, so here it is:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/g...lest-mini-pc#/

GPD are coming very close to producing a device I might actually buy. It's a shame this one only has 4GB. It's really tempting at only $299 but I kind of see it as just another toy. If it had 8GB I'd be able to justify purchasing it as a replacement for my laptop.
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now that ....even with 4gb ram and running mate...is perfect to take to work.
I have been on the lookout for a umpc that was compact enough and running somethinglinux ...for a while now....

it is indeed tempting.
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N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
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#38
After receiving my new phone the best handheld gnu/linux machine for 2019 seems to be Sony Xperia XA2 Plus with Sailfish X.

- linux/gnu base - check
- Terminal - check
- Easy to setup ssh access - check
- Full control of the device - check
- 2 sim cards, SDCard option, enough memory (6GB) - check
- Everything on the device open source - does not pass

Negatives:
- This is par-course for Linux devices so I'm not sure if it warrants mentioning, but it is of course half-baked and expect some things not to work. As always with linux based machines, do your homework to find out if something essential to you is not working.
- It's a bit big. I have to use it a bit longer until I arrive at final conclusion. Usually I like more compact handhelds, but even though I was shocked at the size at first, it hasn't been hindrance so far. Quite the contrary considering I got to replace two devices now that I can fit 2 sim cards in it.
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That GPD thing... RJ45, RS232, 4 USB (3 real + 1 C)... tempting indeed!
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In case you missed it, GPD have addressed both of these issues in the forthcoming GPD MicroPC.
This is what I wrote about the GPD Pocket 2 in comparison to version 1:
Originally Posted by sulu View Post
+ µSD
+ 2nd USB A port

o still no exchangable storage (M.2?)
o still no keyboard backlight
o not sure about the new keyboard layout

- no more trackpoint (I'll wait for version 3 then)
- no more dedicated HDMI (not much of a problem, but seeing how much empty space is wasted on the right edge to make it look thin, including an HDMI port and a bunch of other ports would have been a piece of cake)
- fan outlet looks pointless (it's blowing right against the display hinge)
Someone at GPD seems to read my posts here, because this new device checks all my boxes*!

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GPD are coming very close to producing a device I might actually buy. It's a shame this one only has 4GB. It's really tempting at only $299 but I kind of see it as just another toy. If it had 8GB I'd be able to justify purchasing it as a replacement for my laptop.
Of course 8GB would be better than 4, but I see myself buying this as a replacement for my EEE 901, which I had to retire, because it just can't keep up anymore.
My main notebook these days is a 12" subnotebook from 2007 that is maxed out at 3GB RAM, which is at the lower end of what I need. 12" is just too big in some situations.

Edit: My only nitpick would be that, since it doesn't have a touchscreen (which I'm fine with), I would have preferred a matte screen.


*) I'm fine with a trackpoint or a touchpad, and this one looks decently sized for the device.
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