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2015-07-01
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Guys, I want to share how important TM is!
Please have a look at this, believe me, after this, everyone would join to contribute
(If the link doesn't work, try this:
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This is exactly why we need to keep the TM in our hands!
Please have a look at this, believe me, after this, everyone would join to contribute
(If the link doesn't work, try this:
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This is exactly why we need to keep the TM in our hands!
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2015-07-01
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completely agree.
and I know it may seem like I'm heading for the gutter on this ...but hear me out.
If we abandon the tm ..
We still carry on like business as usual...
except for two likelihoods...
we'll be doing damage control from either
A- whatever sketchy business wishes to make a buck off the good name ...where are complaints, where are the people going to go to complain? Here..
B- considering the maemo logo "ae" and name "maemo" the most likely result is we won't be so lucky to have the tm purchased by a hustler...but more likely purchased BY Hustler ..or some triple-x rated service...I can see it now...(really) "Maemo's Motel of Mammoth Mammaries" scoff and laugh all you like ...but there is a very high possibility we will be getting a very odd (and likely unsavory) bunch coming to our door expecting something the majority of us guys just don't have to give.
So say what you wish against keeping the tm ..
I think it wouldn't bode well to let it slip away.
It's ten years of bad luck and damage that can happen ..and then there is the "hope" of maybe reacquiring it. There is no certainty.
And if we got it back in 10 years ..
Then there is the damage control to make our "name" carry the value again..after a decade if damage to it.....more time...
Is all that worth it?
Last edited by endsormeans; 2015-07-01 at 02:54.
and I know it may seem like I'm heading for the gutter on this ...but hear me out.
If we abandon the tm ..
We still carry on like business as usual...
except for two likelihoods...
we'll be doing damage control from either
A- whatever sketchy business wishes to make a buck off the good name ...where are complaints, where are the people going to go to complain? Here..
B- considering the maemo logo "ae" and name "maemo" the most likely result is we won't be so lucky to have the tm purchased by a hustler...but more likely purchased BY Hustler ..or some triple-x rated service...I can see it now...(really) "Maemo's Motel of Mammoth Mammaries" scoff and laugh all you like ...but there is a very high possibility we will be getting a very odd (and likely unsavory) bunch coming to our door expecting something the majority of us guys just don't have to give.
So say what you wish against keeping the tm ..
I think it wouldn't bode well to let it slip away.
It's ten years of bad luck and damage that can happen ..and then there is the "hope" of maybe reacquiring it. There is no certainty.
And if we got it back in 10 years ..
Then there is the damage control to make our "name" carry the value again..after a decade if damage to it.....more time...
Is all that worth it?
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1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
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N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
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Meateo balloons now available @ Dave999's Meateo Emporium
Lurker since 2007, Member since 2013, Certifiable since 1972
Owner of :
1-n770 (in retirement), 3-n800's / 3-n810's (still in daily use), 5-n900's ((3 are flawless, 1 loose usb ( parts), 1 has no telephony (parts))
3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
Meateo balloons now available @ Dave999's Meateo Emporium
Last edited by endsormeans; 2015-07-01 at 02:54.
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2015-07-01
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#34
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Originally Posted by szopin
For the duration at least I can answer, the 2keur will buy 10-year extension for the trademark.
Could we get a proper answer to this though? What is at stake? Is there any stake? How do we use the maemo TM currently? What plans are to use it? If we cannot be sued (my first thought was someone stealing the TM and trying to close us for using talk.(tm).org, but we're not selling anything, except maybe some projects), then isn't it 2k euro thrown to waste? Willing to chip in, but so far noone provided any good reason, except maemorabilia, and that doesn't really speak to my wallet, when does meego TM run out? Will we be throwing another 2k euro soon for another dead icon? Srsly, as much as I would like to help, I need a reason
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2015-07-01
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#35
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Originally Posted by juiceme
We have organization-level PayPal account now!
I am in the process of registering an official paypal account for Maemo Community now, but it takes a while since it is not just point'n'shoot operation like for private citizens.
I will post details when the account has been set up.
Please use donations@maemo.org for donations
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2015-07-01
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Originally Posted by juiceme
Great!
We have organization-level PayPal account now!
Please use donations@maemo.org for donations
Will it be possible to 'send to friends'?
Or will PayPal cut off their part of fee anyway?
Then we should make clear that SEPA is preferred, right?
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at least for people in SEPA/Euro zone (exception: GB, ...)
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2015-07-01
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Originally Posted by peterleinchen
Well, I tested it myself by sending a donation "for Goods&Services" and PayPal pocketed 5.4% of my cash....
Great!
Will it be possible to 'send to friends'?
Or will PayPal cut off their part of fee anyway?
Then we should make clear that SEPA is preferred, right?
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at least for people in SEPA/Euro zone (exception: GB, ...)
The option "for Friends&Family" is also available though, so maybe you should use that if you want tu use PayPal
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2015-07-01
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I find PayPal fees and transactions a little on the dear side as well.
Do we have any alternatives?
It's probably the most costly for me sending from Australia, even bank exchange rates are a rip-off.
Do we have any alternatives?
It's probably the most costly for me sending from Australia, even bank exchange rates are a rip-off.
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2015-07-01
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Originally Posted by juiceme
I have just sent €10 using that option. No fees were quoted. Please let me know when the money arrives.
The option "for Friends&Family" is also available though, so maybe you should use that if you want tu use PayPal
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2015-07-01
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Originally Posted by pichlo
Yes, the donation was received in full (€10) and no charges were substracted from it
Originally Posted by juicemeI have just sent €10 using that option. No fees were quoted. Please let me know when the money arrives.The option "for Friends&Family" is also available though, so maybe you should use that if you want tu use PayPal
but I do have handy blk and wht on a white, mid-grey, and mute turquoise...
these were initial tests since they aren't sculpted and trimmed to design edge before putting them through the heat press ..
and one had a crease in it from the process..so was unfit for sale..
I never bothered to sell what were "test" samples ..
I merely kept them for myself...
and continue until no more tests were needed and the process refinement was fit for sale....
the amount of wear and tear and weekly (even twice a week if I wanted to wear a fav for a bit..) washing after 7 years shows the process definitely has staying power after so long....
Anyway...the rough loss is 1 out of every 4-5 shirts I do...
I expect that some part of the process getting fudged along the way ...like that one with the noticeable crease in pattern...
I also used to do hats and hoodies and all that kinda fun stuff ...way back when..
update: 01/07/2015
Got back from looky-looing for local supplies..
By Monday I should have something interesting to show.
Lurker since 2007, Member since 2013, Certifiable since 1972
Owner of :
1-n770 (in retirement), 3-n800's / 3-n810's (still in daily use), 5-n900's ((3 are flawless, 1 loose usb ( parts), 1 has no telephony (parts))
3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
Meateo balloons now available @ Dave999's Meateo Emporium
Last edited by endsormeans; 2015-07-01 at 21:55.