To be honest, PureView had become a brand name rather than a specific technology. Microsoft may own that brand name (and one suspects inevitably dilute it ), but that doesn't necessarily stop Nokia producing advanced mobile camera tech.

That's what we hope when we see a black box labeled: Nokia up to something.

Pureview became a brand-name (set of imaging experience enhancing tech blah marketingblah) under MS rule to quickly explain the setbacks in quality and lack of mega large sensor in the first "Pureview" enabled Lumia's.

The core Pureview feature (pixel oversampling) might still be out of Nokia's reach and in the progress of becoming irrelevant in Microsofts morgue of unwanted irritating tech that stand in our way to shape the world.
It took years to develop it, it was a great idea but since 2012 nothing significant has been done with the technology.

Soon also the 1020 Lumia may become a last vintage Pureview camera phone.
Maybe Nokia will revive it after 2016?

Edit: Pureview Whitepaper version 2 (MS apologetic version) https://i.nokia.com/blob/view/-/1824...review-820.pdf

It is important that Jolla stays independent, one of the core assets of Jolla is this community.

Nokia did some good things in the past, but at the end they behaved like a typical corporation, the N900 and N9 abandoning are good examples.

Another thing people need to forget about - Pureview the brand, and the underlying technology.

Microsoft own the Pureview brand, all the technology and most of the expertise. I believe that Apple were able to scoop up a few employees who did not want to transfer to Microsoft.

It is impossible for Nokia to revive over 10 years of knowledge and expertise in imaging! Sorry, but those are the facts!

mmh, I was actually being sarcastic here.
There exist no such company as @pichlo described, and never did AFAIK.

Hence my, "I don't know if it's true"

Besides, how can you be so sure? Maybe Nokia is/was not such a company, but how do you know there isn't one somewhere?

Not to be the one to nitpick, but reaching the mainstream and being niche are exactly what the Jolla doesn't do (at this time) and is, respectively.

Is there a significant number of people here that would rather see Jolla make another Samsung Soapbox than chart out their own blue ocean (you know, to "be unlike")? Sure. I can't blame them; it would be nice to be one of the people that helped a grassroots project that's like the big boys' go to the moon alongside the big boys. However, that's a tad dangerous; you don't see the Ouya trying to compete with Nintendo or Sony consoles (for one reason or another).

Do they have the potential to possibly reach the mainstream? Sure. Do they have a sure shot at it? With their (current) culture, absolutely not. People are interested in marked-up, Foxconn-made phones that have the power to replace their computer, yet they still choose to use their computer. People like that aren't interested in "being unlike." Rather, it's much the opposite. They don't care that their OS is open-source and backed by a company who won't sell their info to an iron-fisted cyber-security government agency. They don't care about TOH. Seeing as though people are more inclined to go with what's familiar, I can't see that ever changing.

The Jolla and Open Pandora are apples and oranges, and putting them in the same sentence to contrast them is grossly unfair to both devices. The Jolla is a really niche device in the world of smartphones. The Open Pandora is a niche device in of itself; I've never heard of something before it that developed a niche within a niche, then expand on that niche.

Unless Jolla makes an Apple Candybar for their next device, starts pulling a Canonical on its (rather small) userbase, and starts getting into a million partnerships to put their device (with mainstream appeal) into as many shops as possible, Jolla will always be a humble, independant company with a cool device and a supportive community. All things considered, that's, IMNSHO, for the better.

I don't understand why people think Nokia are interested in Jolla in the first place. Because Nokia created the N9 and swipe UI, which Jolla (sort of) continued? The company that produced that OS and product no longer exists. Nokia sold its mobile phones division and its mobile phone division employees. Not to mention, those employees then went on to work on Windows Phone. The employees who were unhappy with the switch from Symbian/Maemo left the company. So I ask, who in this company is still around from the Meego/Maemo days? I can give you a list of people who are not, because they are now part of Jolla.

This isn't 2011. It's nearly 2015. Nokia of today is producing Android software and branding hardware running that software. They are not about to swoop in and make more products akin to the ones they abandoned. It would be great if people could quit dreaming this will happen.

One of these days, Jolla will buy Nokia (or whats left of it) to gain access to a patent or two...

Sarcasm is the only way to discuss about this painful subject. I was using the same method to refer to those Nokia employees siting on their *** waiting for Elop to pull the chair from under it and make them kill their babies.

Respect to those few that have opened their mouth to speak out during those burning platform (how dared he use that metaphor while there was this terrible corp greed induced disaster by BP still ongoing) and internal Lumia speech to "leak" notes but now I can only hope that the fighters went to Jolla and won't quit till its 2010 again.

About Pureview ore equivalent gone forever: I really would like to know: was it not said that Nokia could make phones if they wanted after 2016?

I'd rather see them make smartcamera's that can call but if it means they have to start from scratch all over I think they are going to be late to the game indeed.
Might be that they had their next in line concepts at hand waiting for new lens / sensor / CPU options tech to arrive.

One of the lead Pureviewers went to Apple indeed so we may soon (in 3 years) see the iCam rise again.