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Is there a section to talk about Java ME? Apps, etc. (7)
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2015-08-31
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interesting to see the Aptoide webstore mentioned, i was never very comfortable with Yandex as a threat vector with trusted access into my device.
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2015-08-31
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Originally Posted by Copernicus
Well, mostly. My favourite sentence:note that it is in Finnish (but the Google translation seemed mostly readable):
http://www.digitoday.fi/vimpaimet/20...t/201511074/66
Originally Posted by google translate
But that's actually not Google's fault, translating company name... Problems of Android support, are the result of the choice of processor and Dinghy w outboard motor known.
Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix
Aptoide store is actually already available for Jolla phone, too. You can get it in the Jolla store.
interesting to see the Aptoide webstore mentioned, i was never very comfortable with Yandex as a threat vector with trusted access into my device.
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2015-08-31
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Originally Posted by Copernicus
That part of the article is a bit vague but imho it means probably the different architectures used in the tablet (x86) and in the phone (ARM). For example: https://together.jolla.com/question/...izing-the-ndk/
Apparently, the most significant issue the reviewer found was compatibility with Android apps. Perhaps due to the Intel processor (I wasn't quite sure on this point) many of the apps are not able to run. So, something to beware of if you are intending to use Android stuff on your tablet...
For the same reason I guess that over 90 % of the apps currently in the Jolla Store for the phone are not available during this year for the tablet. To convert the pre-existing apps for the tablet and to get them in the store devs have to do some work:
1) Adapt the app UI for the bigger resolution. Most of the current apps will look awful on the tablet if some serious changes are not done for the UI. Depending on app this might take only some hours but I'm pretty confident that this means dozens of hours of additional work for many of the devs.
2) Compile the app for x86. This should be easy.
I might get maybe one of my apps converted during this year (if the tablet SDK is released before October), rest of them maybe next year.
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2015-08-31
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Originally Posted by Copernicus
Difficult to call a couple of paragraphs a review. It's a small preview, even if it is on final software / hardware.
Looks like an actual review of the tablet is now out (and came out a few days ago -- sorry if this has been noted elsewhere already); note that it is in Finnish (but the Google translation seemed mostly readable):
http://www.digitoday.fi/vimpaimet/20...t/201511074/66
The reviewer finds that the tablet has sufficient processing power (he/she compares against the Jolla phone), a decent screen (but not quite as good as the iPad / Samsung competitors), decent battery life (better than I had expected), and pretty awful cameras.
Apparently, the most significant issue the reviewer found was compatibility with Android apps. Perhaps due to the Intel processor (I wasn't quite sure on this point) many of the apps are not able to run. So, something to beware of if you are intending to use Android stuff on your tablet...
Re: Aptoide ... it's been available for over a year.
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2015-08-31
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I had a Motorola Razr i with Intel x86 for about a month 1,5 years ago and I didn't find any Android apps that were missing from the Play Store. What has changed since then (if I have to believe that so-called review)?
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2015-08-31
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Originally Posted by bluefoot
It's not on final software, as mentioned in the article. Version tested was 1.1.9.26, updates were also pushed during tests. Hopefully it's not too buggy on delivery...
Difficult to call a couple of paragraphs a review. It's a small preview, even if it is on final software / hardware.
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2015-08-31
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Originally Posted by vistaus
I guess it has something to do with the Alien Dalvik + x86.
I had a Motorola Razr i with Intel x86 for about a month 1,5 years ago and I didn't find any Android apps that were missing from the Play Store. What has changed since then (if I have to believe that so-called review)?
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2015-08-31
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Originally Posted by vistaus
I guess the reviewer has misunderstood what's causing problems. Most likely the issue is in Android compatibility layer, which has to be adapted to x86 same way it had to be adapted to Qualcomm chip on Jolla phone. It was quite unstable on initial release back then... hopefully it's not that bad on release.
I had a Motorola Razr i with Intel x86 for about a month 1,5 years ago and I didn't find any Android apps that were missing from the Play Store. What has changed since then (if I have to believe that so-called review)?
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2015-09-01
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Intel has developed ARM-emulation for Android NDK stuff, and since the tablet is built on Intel's reference platform, Intel might license its technology for use on the tablet.
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http://www.digitoday.fi/vimpaimet/20...t/201511074/66
The reviewer finds that the tablet has sufficient processing power (he/she compares against the Jolla phone), a decent screen (but not quite as good as the iPad / Samsung competitors), decent battery life (better than I had expected), and pretty awful cameras
Apparently, the most significant issue the reviewer found was compatibility with Android apps. Perhaps due to the Intel processor (I wasn't quite sure on this point) many of the apps are not able to run. So, something to beware of if you are intending to use Android stuff on your tablet...