Thanks, I saw that - I really meant a reason along with the edit notice, given as one or two words.

I completely accept jalyst's good intentions and expressly thank him for his interest and motivation.

And in principle, I agree with him regarding unnecessary levels of aggression and hostility - I wish it would vanish but sadly, it will not.

Providing a reason for an edit will go some way to helping.

Welllll...I think for clarity's sake.
So no one feels like they are being over-moderated (whether that is the case or not) and feel offended...
nor moderators feel slighted or hurt by the comments thereby....
[And I really hate the thought anyone I like here...moderator or poster or both... being upset.]

I think that whether it is accidental omission or kindness on the part of the moderator not to inflict infractions here ...it doesn't matter ..it is an unfair tarring of the moderator as a consequence.
Likewise posters end up equally dismayed...
So to make things absolutely crystal..
I think concerning what chemist was mentioning...he has it right.
"By-the-Book" is the way to go...
I think it truly saves hurt feelings..
and it makes the posters responsible for what they write...which is ultimately what the posters are stating that they wish. [It's just that everyone want's to feel a greater responsibility ...without the infractions of course.. eh? am I right or am I right? ]
So yeah...By-the-Book...I think is the best way to go...

[watch me get a pile of infractions now..for stuff that has been quietly and patiently edited by others....make my glove box fulla speeding tickets look like a joke ]

Here is what I would do if I were a moderator.

First of all, no silent edits/deletes/moves. My personal affiliations go out of the window. With a moderator's hat on, I do not have any personal opinion. If someone gets reported, I ask the reporter and the reportee to explain themselves. Moving/editing/deleting posts is the very last resort and when it comes to that, I would add a comment explaining the reason.

That is what I would do. YMMV.

If I got one cent every time IT happened I would have been billionaire by now.

Isn't that part of the fun with admin right. You select a target, you follow him, you sneak...and then BAM...and disappear before the target knows what happened

Preditor...

But when I think about it...it was a while since it happened actually. Maybe that means that I'm back on topic...

I think the 2,5 mods are doing a good job. It's not fun to be mod. Just think about it. Everyone here thinks they are right all the time

It would be fun to vote mods into office...and out

That is what in general is happening, you report with a reason, if the mod does not see reason it is dropped, if he sees reason he acts, that is exactly what jalyst did, that started an argument and then I told him that he must not get into this kind of argument (getting personal and stuff), shut it down, write a reason below, give infraction - not nice but before you get involved personally.. when you are in personally mods need to go to supermods/admins and ask them to solve the issue. What people most of the time do not understand is that at the point I need to get involved I do no more asking questions, I read conversations and posts and wipe the plate clean as I see fit. If there is an apology to be made or not and so on. People tend to attack me personally as soon as I get involved publicly, so I try to not get involved.

You know the game, you are a thread hijacker and get caught with your hands in the cookie jar and yes everybody here thinks they are right, always, some of them know what my toolbox looks like from below as I do not even bother to get the hammer out of the box... and yes it seems you are back on topic (mostly) at least I hear no complaints anymore

Those whom have seen my toolbox know that they get a msg about why and what happened. Most frequent response is still "WHY?", most frequent answer is then "so you cool off, take the 3 days and do something useful"

To add a closer, there was no harm done here, you can read the history of the posts yourself and jalyst did add an explanation to each (last) edit that was then edited by the original poster again - which got some confusion spread although the edits did not even change the context, just the language was cooled down so the thread does not get into a serious fight. That was actually good moderator work but in this forum or in forums in general people do not like when mods change their wording, they want to sound angry, they want to get into a fight they want to get banned for three days or at least get some infractions so they know it was worth while it lasted... so all of you take a deep breath, jalyst try to not overedit things, let the boys fight if they want to and send them into their corner when it got out of hand. If they start arguing with you about the then deserved infraction or editing of language, let me know and I grab my toolbox to fix it, some nails should do it.. (sorry I am out of duct tape).

hehehee
Like the cut of your jib sir.

Ffs guise, leave you for half an afternoon and it's all smoochies and hugs. Where can I claim a refund? Have 5 buckets of popcorn and the shop said thread fail is not a good enough reason for refund. Should I mail council? This seemed like return to the old days of page after page of good corny drama, damn you!

btw, all the transparency lovers, transparent modlogs are something which open source centred community would like? Less drama if anyone can check the logs before slinging some excrementy accusations he said she said etc, no?

Haha...Serial thread derailers! Brilliant line by gerbick. Also, miss texrat Messing with With the thread title of the longest thread of TMO history on a daily basis. hard to be on topic when you dident had a clue what the title would be the next day...

Once we were many derailers in one single thread...now Im the last dinasour

To me...The best mods follow the flows of the thread and only interfering when breaking the rules Which is pretty much never. Usually a good Idea is to just post a line in the thread rather then step in and take over by removing stuff and that is usually enough to direct the members to behave. Remove threads/posts should be rarly to never and only With personal attacks and religions....And today i never seen personal attacks like before...

Btw...if you have time you can read IT for yourself and see if IT needs moderation...http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=42285

One good post of many: (mods do get some love)

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Great thread guys..

@ Laughingstok.. you the man..
@Texrat.. no better moderator in the world..
@rpgamazon.. the world will seem to dull without ur trolling..
@optimus.. good stuff..

and other random ppl whose name was never remembered.. good job everyone..

Now if only my internet will take less than 8 hours to download the firmware!!!.. I hate being away from home with such monumental things happen..

I don't believe for 1 second that our posts would EVER be covertly moderated for our own well being how did when the fact remains and in conclusion I reiterate that thank you and good night

Not you what you just Said... Mods are infact nice people?

I have at least read 10 simular threads...every mod must have atleast one when he/she steps on someones toes

Deja Vu