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dneary, i am careful with every word i say which is why i was deliberating and discussing in different places.
And if you wanted that kept on the downlow I apologize. I recalled the remarks being made publicly with no indication you wanted them private. If that recollection is wrong, my bad.
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Originally Posted by zehjotkah View Post
I've just received a registration confirmation...
An update: I did get another email from the Linux Foundation saying my registration was approved and that I needed to accept or decline the invitation. This was after already receiving a simple registration confirmation.

Anyway, I urge all candidates and current council members to register for the conference ASAP: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/

Again, no assurance of sponsorship at this point, which I realize can be a showstopper for some. For instance I have the airline miles for the travel but cannot afford a hotel, so if I do manage to go unsponsored I will have to beg for a roommate.

I do think though that the current and next council should be sponsored so that we can work on a productive handoff.
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
An update: I did get another email from the Linux Foundation saying my registration was approved and that I needed to accept or decline the invitation. This was after already receiving a simple registration confirmation.

Anyway, I urge all candidates and current council members to register for the conference ASAP: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/

Again, no assurance of sponsorship at this point, which I realize can be a showstopper for some. For instance I have the airline miles for the travel but cannot afford a hotel, so if I do manage to go unsponsored I will have to beg for a roommate.

I do think though that the current and next council should be sponsored so that we can work on a productive handoff.
yes, got it today, too...
seems like the Linux Foundation wants me as a council member
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I would register if I knew there was a reasonable chance of sponsorship. But who would sponsor me? And where do I apply for that sponsorship?
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Apply anyway, qole. I'm pushing for Nokia sponsorship for current and next council members. No guarantee, but I am giving it my best shot. Might not hurt for others to lobby as well.
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Originally Posted by lemmyslender View Post
I look forward to reading the Q&A here on tmo, at least I hope to. It sounds as though they are very interesting.
It took a while but I'm away from a desk sometimes 16 hours at a time. With the week-end storm in the Northeast of the USA these past two days have been on the road.

I'll post my answers here as formatting an e-mail leaves something to be desired.


Sprint process
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This is the main organised point of contact between Nokia, the paid
contributors and the community, however the maemo.org sprint process
is quite heavy for volunteers and it often seems to be a checklist
affair; rather than a collaborative planning exercise.

1) Do you see any flaws in it, and how do you think it can be improved?
I haven’t participated directly in the sprint process in the past so any input from me with regard to improvements or flaws would be subjective. I have reviewed the tasks and results from past sprints as reported in the WikI page found @ >> http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints
It seems to me that like all things successfully done, it involves planning, execution, and follow up. While each stage is necessary, the best people in each of those stages are not necessarily the best people for all of those stages.

Your question merges two of these stages and supposes that it is an either or proposition. If that is the current thinking then it will always be either well planned, or over executed, or vice versa and proper follow-up will be ignored altogether.

From reading the planning and review meeting logs found here [/I]>> http://maemo.org/maemo-meeting/ [I]I find that this isn’t the case; each meeting usually begins with a follow-up and review of the past sprint. However improvements can always be made. If improving the Sprint process is a MUST/SHOULD task, I would start with the follow up stage of the process and move forward.

[The number one improvement I see would be the visibility of the Sprint process. In my research I saw that a lot of the same people have been doing the heavy lifting time and time again. I was a bit ashamed to admit that after 3 years I have not participated in this process. But then again, I am forum centric and although there have been great improvements in the availability of information; most of it remains unseen on the forums as either posts or links.
They old saying “out of sight, out of mind” may hold true.



2) What are your thoughts on ongoing communication during the sprint?
I really like Bergies initiative >> http://www.qaiku.com/channels/show/maemork/
I think he and I may have traveled many of the same roads, the same way, but at different times.

However, rather than add a new means of communication we should explore how the forums could be used. It is possible to set up a privately viewed forum that allows posts only from a specific user group. That user group could very well be Sprint participants. Sprint tasks could be threads and those threads could be locked and moved as “stickies” to a public area at the completion of the Sprint.

Rank and file forum participants could then start new threads commenting on those “stuck” threads. From these comments constructive feedback could be used in the follow-up review. The task threads would be unstuck but remain locked to naturally depreciate when the next Sprints task threads become available.



MeeGo
~~~~~
MeeGo is, IMHO, the single biggest thing to happen to Maemo since the
770. In many ways, it's the opening up of the design processes that
many of us have wanted in Maemo for so long. As Maemo as an operating
system disappears, this will have a big effect on the community.

3) As we move from "day zero" to "day one", what do you think the
priorities for the MeeGo community should be?
Apart from the code?

IMHO, some things need to be left to professionals. Website design, forum and communication channels should be laid out by the Manufacturers.This is store front stuff. They intend to sell the devices and to many potential customers, these channels will be what they form their first impression of the product from. I’m also thinking the bucks will come from a different line item than R & D.

An example of why I think this is wasted effort would be the discussions about what software the MeeGo forum should use, that open source software should be used because MeeGo is open source. This makes no sense to me. The best forum and website software should be used regardless of its source. It has as much to do with Meego as organically grown vegetables have with where they are sold. I doubt as many people would buy these vegtables if they could only be sold from grass huts.

The Meego community at this point is, and should be research and development centric. The benefit to both us as well as the manufacture’s for this R & D transparency is moving engaged users closer to this process. For them it is a chance to touch and directly interact with end users, for us it will mean shorter times to market for new technology, and devices with a better defined purpose.

What I believe our role could be is to help provide focus and some order to this voice of the end user. I said earlier that I felt some decisions should be left to professionals. However, once the pro’s provide the store front and the lease is drawn up and agreed upon, it will be up to us to provide and place the majority of the inventory.



4) Should leaders in the MeeGo community (whether from a Moblin or
Maemo background) try to move the existing communities with them to
form the MeeGo community; or should a new community form around the
operating system and its devices?
They could try, but I doubt they would be effective. A new community will always form around new operating systems and devices.



4a) If yes, what steps should be taken to prevent overreactions and
allegations of "take over" that happened when internettablettalk.com's
theme changed to match the rest of maemo.org?
My answer would be no.




4b) If no, how do you see the relationship between the Maemo community
which has been "left behind" and the MeeGo community? How does the
Maemo community stay vibrant if large portions on moving on to Maemo's
successor, or drifting away to other mobile platforms?
No one will be left behind. Maemo will always be part of MeeGo’s legacy.
Unlike the 770, a lot of N900’s were sold. Like the 770, the N800 and N810’s were built like tanks. They will be around for quite a while and people will always find uses for them. As MeeGo becomes device centric, I think Maemo devices will also find a home there.



5) What are your thoughts about existing maemo.org resources (such as
Extras, auto-builder, Bugzilla) as Nokia, and the paid contributors,
look to the future?
They should continue and I would think that Nokia has an interest in continuing their support in the near future.
I don’t know any of the details and any speculation on my part could lead to increased FUD.



Community
~~~~~~~~~

6) How can we encourage more, and higher quality, applications for
Maemo - and specifically through Extras?
One word, Forums.

Some of the best collaborative efforts have come from forum threads. I have also seen existing developers that had month’s old garage sites, make much more frequent and useful updates once they began participating in active threads in the forums. Sometimes a simple Kudos is all it takes >> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=17532

Although that thread started over two years ago, it remains active as of 3-15-10…I don’t see this much anymore. Perhaps it is the increase in noise that came when the N900 dropped however; I believe we all should be more proactive.

If elected I will push for a strong, more focused community voice from within the forums.

As I said in my nomination, I am a Forum centric member of maemo.org. I believe a lot more could be done with the forums that will benefit all channels in maemo.org. At times I feel that this potential has been squandered. The framing of questions like 4a (above) shows me that perhaps some of us still don’t understand how strong the sense of community can develop from within a forum and how productive that could be.
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I'll post my answers here as formatting an e-mail leaves something to be desired.
Please could you follow-up to the email on maemo-community pointing to your response, and I'd also suggest updating the wiki page to point to your answers so that voters can see your reply without it being buried in the middle of a thread.

As I said in my nomination, I am a Forum centric member of maemo.org. I believe a lot more could be done with the forums that will benefit all channels in maemo.org. At times I feel that this potential has been squandered. The framing of questions like 4a (above) shows me that perhaps some of us still don’t understand how strong the sense of community can develop from within a forum and how productive that could be.
I don't think you'll find a single candidate who'd argue with the fact that the forums are one of the biggest single reasons the Maemo community is where it is today. Nor that a passionate, powerful and informed group of people can exist within a forum (and, in particular this one).

However, could you explain more of the concrete changes you see so that "some of us" and the electorate can exactly see how you think the fora could be used better? Links to posts where you have suggested these improvements in the past would also be welcome :-)

Otherwise, I call "strawman"! (Been watching too much of season 7 of The West Wing; can I call the lawyers yet to arbitrate over the result?)
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If I may be so bold as to pose a question to the candidates:

I think we would all agree that at least the next 2 councils (12 months) will be dealing with significant changes as MeeGo begins to take shape and our community here begins to merge with the MeeGo community (however that may occur). This will cause changes in our community that the council will have to deal with (from significant to insignificant). In my opinion, it would be best to have stability on the council during this time period, I would hope that 3-5 members would get re-elected for the 2nd term (or possibly their 3rd straight term).

I think we can also all agree that there will be a vocal minority that are upset with those changes (no matter what they are). I would hate to see any newly elected coucil member decide not to run for an additional term because they are upset by a vocal minority of the community. So based on that:

How will you (personally) as a council member, deal with the likely complaints (and perhaps even personal attacks) from within the community? How will these complaints affect your commitment to being on the council?

I apologize if this offends anyone, but I think a stable *visible* driving force (the council) will be a key to the longevity (and birth or rebirth) of both communities.
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Originally Posted by Jaffa View Post
Please could you follow-up to the email on maemo-community pointing to your response, and I'd also suggest updating the wiki page to point to your answers so that voters can see your reply without it being buried in the middle of a thread.



I don't think you'll find a single candidate who'd argue that the forums are one of the biggest single reasons the Maemo community is where it is today. Nor that a passionate, powerful and informed group of people can exist within a forum (and, in particular this one).

However, could you explain more of the concrete changes you see so that "some of us" and the electorate can exactly see how you think the fora could be used better? Links to posts where you have suggested these improvements in the past would also be welcome :-)

Otherwise, I call "strawman"! (Been watching too much of season 7 of The West Wing; can I call the lawyers yet to arbitrate over the result?)
Wow!

First you post questions that to some look more like a survey of your effectiveness. However, you make it known that you feel that answering them is a prerequisite for accepting a nomination.Then you announce your candidacy... You have been watching to much West Wing.

You can call it or me, anything you want but I suggest you look outside this organization once in a while to see how others more effectively use fora.

After I posted that I am temporarily working 16 hour days because of a recent act of god, you now request from the "electorate" that I provide you as a "candidate" more detail?

I am not a child or a younger sibling and neither are the members of maemo.org. If you wish to run a positive campaign, run it on your past accomplishments. Not against the negatives that you perceive another candidate possesses.

I'm going back to work now in the physical world and for a time, will be away from from desk . Until then for links you can start >> HERE <<

After you finish reading, please feel free to ask me any questions you want.
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Originally Posted by YoDude View Post
First you post questions that to some look more like a survey of your effectiveness. However, you make it known that you feel that answering them is a prerequisite for accepting a nomination.Then you announce your candidacy... You have been watching to much West Wing.
I can honestly say I had not decided to run when framing those questions. Indeed, the purpose of the questions for me was to work out whether the body of candidates would represent my views (y'know, the point of a representative democracy).

I've never suggested that answering them is a prerequisite for accepting a nomination; that was your own misreading of a friendly comment between myself and javispedro (ask him if he felt answering them was in someway necessary to stand). However, I did (and do) feel that if a community member wants to survey the candidates they should be entitled to answers; and that it is beholden on the candidates to make their positions as clear as possible by providing as much collateral as possible.
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