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2013-03-04
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Probably because everybody criticizes them and probably won't help them in any way.
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2013-03-04
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To help them to fragment Linux?
Think for example of graphics drivers and games developers. Now they work with X.org. Next big shift - Wayland. Their head already spins. Now Ubuntu blows things up with their Mir.
I already imagine games developers say - forget this mess, stick with Windows?? And driver developers even more. Nvidia will just shrug and say - forget it. And there will no Wayland driver...
Last edited by shmerl; 2013-03-04 at 19:53.
Think for example of graphics drivers and games developers. Now they work with X.org. Next big shift - Wayland. Their head already spins. Now Ubuntu blows things up with their Mir.
I already imagine games developers say - forget this mess, stick with Windows?? And driver developers even more. Nvidia will just shrug and say - forget it. And there will no Wayland driver...
Last edited by shmerl; 2013-03-04 at 19:53.
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2013-03-04
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Go your own way if you believe in it! Make it or break it...
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2013-03-04
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From the Mir page:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MirSpec#Mir_...s_Driver_Stack
This sounds good (can share open drivers with Wayland).
This is a critical part, since it doesn't say that those drivers will be Wayland compatible.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MirSpec#Mir_...s_Driver_Stack
Right now, Mir is able to run on top of the free graphics driver stack, leveraging GBM, DRM and KMS to integrate with existing graphics hardware.
Right now, Mir does not run on desktop hardware that requires closed source drivers. However, we are in contact with GPU vendors and are working closely together with them to support Mir and to distill a reusable and unified EGL-centric driver model that further eases display server development in general and keeps cross-platform use-cases in mind.
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2013-03-04
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http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/c...-wayland-not-x
Great write-up here
https://plus.google.com/107555540696...ts/hzRy1rJaafc
Great write-up here
https://plus.google.com/107555540696...ts/hzRy1rJaafc
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2013-03-05
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2013-03-05
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Canonical is a cancer
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This one is even more interesting, I can't figure out how they plan to do that in a year:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTMxNzg
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTMxNzg
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It sounds worse and worse to me, seeming like Ubuntu plans to isolate itself completely from the rest of the Linux world (not unlike Android?). Why can't they use Wayland? Their explanation on the page is very vague.
In general it sounds like a horrible fragmentation attempt.
Last edited by shmerl; 2013-03-04 at 19:48.