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There's the other side of the coin - there wouldn't be any need to increase defense capabilities against Russia if it didn't first show aggression by threats and massing forces on it's borders, launching wars against its neighbors, illegally annexing (or creating puppet states) its neighbors territory and actively trying to subvert western countries. Not reacting would only be seen as sign of weakness and that they can continue unhindered. Last thing North Europeans want is to be forced under russian control/subversion once again. One cold war experience was quite enough and that's far higher priority than doing business, so things have to change quite much before "business as usual" can return. Don't know how much all of it affects Sailfish development, but personally I do have reservations about possible kremlin influence.

Remember this I will not defend russian agression. But fact stand we in west is not better than them!

West selling weapons to scumbags. Selling out our jobs to poor countries and is pissed at migrants when we loosing out jobs. But in the same time we dont wanna pay what a product actually costs!

And all EU countries is now blaming their OWN problems on migrants. And guess what? who win on this childish leaderchips in EU where no one cares? And all this about "leaving EU". Well let me tell you something: Thats EXACTLY what Russia and terrorists like ISIS and other western facists want. Split EU makes them VERY happy. And will for sure lead to WW3.

And btw why does people forget the fact that WEST feeded those terrorist ashole in Syria and Irak and or similar!


Now I am offtopic bu I dont give a **** if my post gets removed or permanetly banned beacuse I am so damn pissed at all the world leaders and and those stupid people who beleive asholes like Putin or Trump or similar populist leaders can make the world better. What they will do is destroy the world.

We have oje big threat that we need to take care of and that is the environment. But no one seems to care.
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I really think we should stop talking politics here. There can not be winners for announcing strong opinions about other nations.

This antirussian propaganda is very loud here in Finland. TV and newspapers are consentrated to few owners who are eager to join country to NATO, resulting media trying to build new cold war. People are behaving paranoidic, seeing evil russians everywhere. Things have gone bad and I fear things get even worse. In times like this we need to find common ground here.

I am glad when russians develop Sailfish version to their homemarket. Russians want to produce a phone with better privacy than IOS or Android provide with NSA. Therefor russian version SFOS can not have backdoors, because backdoors can are surely used against them. The result is better privacy to everyone. If russians did not want privacy, then it would surely be cheaper for them to continue using Android and IOS.
 

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relax, global sailfishos will not receive any russian services and stuff. russian contribution to sailfishos is just for common bugfixes and improvements. russian services will be only preinstalled to phones on russian markets.
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Hey all. Life walks in misterious ways, I've always wanted to work, first for Nokia on Maemo, then meeGo, then jolla on Sailfish, now I work for OMP as a lead designer.
We're currently on a very early stage of deployment so current OMP website is just an extremely rough dummy, please don't use it to make any kind of assumptions yet. I can comment on anything design-related, can't comment on anything else (not because I'm not allowed to, but because I'm not a specialist in any other area). Thanks
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@wazd congratulations! i think this news is much better to discuss than russian trojans and malware in sfos
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Every new SFOS-based phone from Russia will have hungrybear.service which will eat your battery and your brain. Also balalayka_ringtone.wav and Putin-ambience.

Politics is everywhere. So sad.
 

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+1 for Putin ambience, and built-in schedule to change it to Medvedev ambience every 8 years and vise versa!
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Originally Posted by coderus View Post
relax, global sailfishos will not receive any russian services and stuff. russian contribution to sailfishos is just for common bugfixes and improvements. russian services will be only preinstalled to phones on russian markets.
Regional sailfish phones sold only in regional markets? Where have I heard it before?
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Honestly, who cares about security and surveillance, who about good guys and bad guys? Those always depend on your point of view. I would appreciate a preinstalled chess app:-)
 

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I would appreciate a preinstalled chess app:-)
Don't worry, you'll get something preinstalled for sure. You won't even know about it

Seriously thought, albeit a bit OT. I really like the fact that Jolla comes with a very minimalistic set of preinstalled apps. I have my objections to their choice of "bare minimum" (for example, I would leave out Gallery and add a file manager instead) but it is a step in the right direction. Chess or any other game is a job for the app store.
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