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Originally Posted by Maemish View Post
I just read a bit about kernel 5.1 and the advantages of it. Maemo Leste is 5.0 I believe. In 5.1 there was some mention of ability to use persistent flash memory as ram. Does anybody know better and could it give any new possibilities with N900 (like more ram somehow)? I really don't understand that stuff but just spotted the news.
Well yes and no

The new memory mode is designed to be used with a fast persistent memory and emmc is not really that fast to use... the erase cycle actually makes it extremely slow...

So it might be possible but it'd slow down your device to glacial speeds
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#242
Originally Posted by juiceme View Post
...emmc is not really that fast to use... the erase cycle actually makes it extremely slow...
Naive question: I guess the same can be said for the uSD ?
 

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No question is naive ...
Either it is :
A- an honest valid question.
B- A ridiculously hilarious question.
Or
C- outright dumb one.

Yours and Maemish's question is an honest valid one.

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In the most rudimentary of parallels to keep it as close to home as possible...
think of it like the n8x0's that have 128 mb of ram WITH the ability to give a tiny bit of oomph with up to an additional 128 mb of ram from allocating "virtual memory" to it.
It helps some ..sure.
"allocating" can help a bit..
can help a lot even...
But it only helps with processes and progs which normally would handle an expected load from the device in question
For example...
You can't run world of warcraft (I do not play ...I like more high brow like Neverwinter nights) on a pentium I ....no matter how much virtual fictitious ram you manage to allocate. (along with a plethora of other valid reasons as well)
BUT ...the processes and progs that would normally be able to run on the pentium I (perhaps even a few borderline slower heavier ones too)..you could run a few more of at the same time...or they would be a bit snappier ...
But that would be the extent of your ability..

In short.. nothing takes the place of dedicated ram

So if one were hoping to double or triple or whatever ...their ram in such a way...
you can fake out the system only so far...
but when process(es) or progs which are beyond the ability for the system to handle normally, need "actual" serious ram to run and look to the availability to utilize it...
It won't be pretty as your device tries its best to accommodate and does this in your hand instead




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(calls it like I sees it...personally I aim for B or C...A is stultifying -ly boring....since it is predictable and has usually been asked 1000 x before...so ask something way out there...may have a "eureka!" come of it...like a battery mod using electricity from potatoes ...way out there..outright hilarious and borderline dumb / mad...but it would probably work...just need a lot of potatoes or one giant potato hooked up to it...BTW- We REALLY need this mod...For years we have had the super smart solving issues ...and we are now hitting the brick walls...its time to bring in the mad and crazy folks to break through those walls with their ingenious ideas and pulpy bodies ...and solve the unsolvable ...)
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#244
Just a teaser...

Nokia N900:



QEMU AMD64 VM with USB passthrough modem:

 

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Would so much like to read an update. Have there been yet phone calls made with ofono? And other news too about leste. In their page their talked of monthly news but I think that wasn't reasonable idea. So much to do. Would just love that they would get it done, there would be an updated linux system.
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#246
Originally Posted by Maemish View Post
Would so much like to read an update. Have there been yet phone calls made with ofono? And other news too about leste. In their page their talked of monthly news but I think that wasn't reasonable idea. So much to do. Would just love that they would get it done, there would be an updated linux system.
Trying to get one written. Been very busy, hopefully one or two more days.

More teasers (yes, it's not well integrated.):

 

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You're doing God's work ...my good man.

I should know...
He told me so yesterday....

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THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325

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Thank you! And thank you for putting time to give this detailed and thorough update. To hear the amount of work you have done and how much work it requires is eye opening. I will try to think a way to contribute to the project.
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This makes me to buy Motorola Droid 4 to run Maemo, it seems that it run SailfishOS too, so my only guestion is can I run both in same phone, just switching in boot?
 

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