Poll: How much would you be willing to pay for a Neo900 (complete device) with TI DM3730 1GHz/512M-RAM/1GB
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How much would you be willing to pay for a Neo900 (complete device) with TI DM3730 1GHz/512M-RAM/1GB

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Will the Neo900 board have support for 4 row keyboard? Or is it possible to add this later with software?
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Hardly since the plan is to reuse the same housing.
 

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Originally Posted by The Wizard of Huz View Post
Or is it possible to add this later with software?
Please elaborate!
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So joerg, found the PoP RAM yet? or decided on one already?
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The board in the feasibility study shows 5 rows. If for example one was to use u different keyboard with 4 rows, use 4 rows from the board from feasibility study, with an altered body (altered sliding mechanism if possible), would that be possible.
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Sure, when we alter the body, alter the sliding mechanism, alter the keymat, alter the PCB accordingly, then basically everything is possible. What's NOT possible: that we alter any of the above, except for PCB but that's determined by the other parts.
And I still fail to see how software is related, we don't have T1000 metal that can change the mechanical properties by a command from software side ;-)
The 5-row kbd shown is a prototype for the GTA04 and not intended to get used for Neo900, except for the dome switch springs.

Of course you're free to casemod your Neo900 all the way you like, and connecting whatever kbd you like is no problem, neither hw side nor sw.

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Originally Posted by Akkumaru View Post
So joerg, found the PoP RAM yet? or decided on one already?
We're hoping to source the http://www.digikey.com/product-detai... TR-ND/4315331 somewhere (1GByte RAM only)

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Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
We're hoping to source the http://www.digikey.com/product-detai... TR-ND/4315331 somewhere (1GByte RAM only)
Nice Good luck on that
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I found another link that implies that in 2015 Telstra will change the LTE from 1800MHz to 700MHz [1][2]
Which means it will be after 2015 to be able to have both 3g and LTE according to the PLS8-US specs in Australia

[1] http://telcoantennas.com.au/site/gui...obile-networks

[2] http://www.computerworld.com.au/arti...idend_auction/

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Hello all,

Many thanks to the initiators of this project - I am quite excited, for probably all the reasons you are excited, but also for this reason:

An open source fourth generation cellular Evolved Packet Network, end to end.

I am presently following the OpenLTE project to make an open source eNodeB (LTE base station) on a Linux computer, and an Ettus SDR, most likely a B200 or B210, depending (I'd like a B210, for the 2x2 MIMO, but you pay for it - you can still get a 20MHz/ 100Mbps down Gen 3 carrier out of a non MIMO radio). They already, as of two weeks ago, have a primitive eNodeB application working, providing FDD downlink only at the moment - it'll talk to your phone, but won't listen to it.

Now, I'm not interested in Voice over LTE or Video over LTE, I'll leave that to people who actually like talking on phones. My primary interest in this is long range, high bandwidth cellular data networks - delivering a whole heap of data up to 30km away, in a real time fashion.

With an eNodeB that I have the source code for, and an open source LTE UE (such as the Neo900) I can examine if there are any bottlenecks in the system, and code to the metal if I have to, to get the latency to the lowest humanly possible level. LTE has an over-the-air latency of 1ms, but "common carrier" networks are experiencing up to 70ms latency for data. My data will be QoS enforced, with certain levels of data taking priority in real time due to safety concerns, and yes, the whole network, from real time controller on mobile robot, to the UE, to the eNodeB, to the high bandwidth backhaul, to the servers and backbones themselves, must be designed with only one policy in mind.

Since its totally my network, and I control it, not an unknowable, and unapproachable, telecommunications company, I can make my own QoS rulings, based on what I feel is priority data, and make intelligent contention decisions, based on users per cell, and prioritised data being fed in.

Now, if any of this ever transmitted into an antenna (for the worry warts out there) I'd be breaking every law in the book. I know what a dummy load is, and I know how to use one. I am not going to break any laws, just to prove my point.

However, with even a 2x2 Gen 5 MIMO, you're getting speeds of 300Mbps down. That is incredible.

However, I'm not asking for that in the Neo900, my questions are:

* Will the phone have a modem specifically for Australian bandplans (850MHz HSDPA+, 900/ 1800MHz GSM, 1800MHz LTE - I use Telstra SIMs when I'm not using my TEST SIMs)?
* Will I be able to interrogate the modem for important information that most users would find banal, but would be crucial for wringing out every last little bit of speed out of such an open source network I've described?

Now, I'm behind this project, you have my vote, and eventually, my money will be laid on a table for an upgrade board for two of my three N900s. I like the idea of simply swapping out a motherboard, and you have an upgraded phone, this idea is long overdue. And no, I don't believe in 4K displays on a teeny tiny thing. Sorry Apple, you don't have my vote. I highly suspect what I'm asking will be more than possible, or someone in the community will know how to make it happen. But a confirmation of some sort would be great, and make me lay part of my uni scholarship early next year on the table for the upgrade boards. Then I would wait impatiently until I could upgrade my phone like my desktop, or the Macbook Pro I am rebuilding, newer, faster motherboard to replace the one that has a dead graphics chip, along with 8GB of RAM and 1TB of SSD.

A final thought - to totally misquote:

"Motherf*cker please! My sh*t is GPL!"

Well, it is Custom, right? So its gotta be GPL =)

Long live open source!!!

Shane.
 

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