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Originally Posted by gerbick
HS says that the ad was made by a production company named Kennel Helsinki.
The real blame is on the advertising firm that put this together. I can't say it's on Nokia. Not exactly.
Shame though. Impressive camera specs and hardware performance will now be forever marred by marketing.
I think it's hard to say where the blame should lie, though I think there's plenty to go around. At least without knowing whether the guy at Nokia that ordered the ad from the production company actually knew what the advertising firm was up to. Either way, blatant incompetence at work.
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ha ha, an investigation. Elop should take his responsibility and resign.
The makers av this movie are doing a far superior job than elop.
He should launch an investigation against himself.
The makers av this movie are doing a far superior job than elop.
He should launch an investigation against himself.
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Originally Posted by gerbick
i consider pretty much any and all advertisement SPAM but, still. advertisement companies get instructions, brain storm some media to embody a message & present it to the company...
The real blame is on the advertising firm that put this together. I can't say it's on Nokia. Not exactly.
Shame though. Impressive camera specs and hardware performance will now be forever marred by marketing.
case at hand, for past NOKIA product introductions there never were such "lies" involved
here there are
maybe the ad department got desperate considering the unsubstantial sales of Dark products, maybe they though they could get away with it, maybe it is the ultimate FART...
we'll never know, 'cuz if anyone gets blamed, it won't be the farthole...
hopefully he won't get anymore bonuses
don't blame the ad company for using whatever was needed to get the message across, okay?
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman
Nah, lets keep beating the dead body ... its fun watching Nokia squirm, the Board with Elop at the helm are entirely responsible for the actions of the company period!
Ads are always spiced up. Let's move on and stop beating a dead horse
Just following orders doesn't cut it ... Spiced up = lying
Besides they canned what I consider to be probably the best phone on the planet for my purposes.
They reap what they sow, they deserve everything they get.
rgds
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Originally Posted by misterc
I've worked at 3 agencies in the past. Creative expression sometimes comes in the form of hyperbole. And if the project manager and/or salesperson can sell it, that hyperbole becomes the ads that you see and the consumer gets upset about much later.
i consider pretty much any and all advertisement SPAM but, still. advertisement companies get instructions, brain storm some media to embody a message & present it to the company...
I can never say that I've had a hamburger look like the ones in the commercials. Can say the same for most electronics too.
case at hand, for past NOKIA product introductions there never were such "lies" involved
don't blame the ad company for using whatever was needed to get the message across, okay?
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Originally Posted by gerbick
yeah, advertisement... remember those ads for washing powder when i was a kid, watching the ads... well, back then they were less intrusive & in blocks, so you had time to go to the loo and could catch an ad or two back in your seat >¦-))))))
I've worked at 3 agencies in the past. Creative expression sometimes comes in the form of hyperbole. And if the project manager and/or salesperson can sell it, that hyperbole becomes the ads that you see and the consumer gets upset about much later.
I can never say that I've had a hamburger look like the ones in the commercials. Can say the same for most electronics too.
washing powder X cleans your laundry whiter then white...
whatever m0##0nic idiot buys washing powder X after watching THAT... doesn't deserve any better
no, indeed, until a few years back NOKIA didn't have to do much ads for their products, for NOKIAs.
the brand in some country was (and partly still is) synonym of mobile phone.
not quite anymore.
when did that change? when farthole arrived?
was before, wasn't it?
but before farthole, we didn't have those blatant lies, did we?
and even after farthole arrived, we still had ads (e.g. 808 PV) that were, well, close enough to the truth that no one really cared to question it...
and then the last desperate attempt to sell Dark devices...
thus...
Originally Posted by gerbick
wild guess ?!?
Ever worked at an ad agency? Curious.
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Shame though. Impressive camera specs and hardware performance will now be forever marred by marketing.