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I would like to have Exchange client which will cheat with server.
It is mean will answer that it is provisioning device but really not....
 
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That's been suggested. Unfortunately, the Exchange sync code is proprietary software so no-one can change it other than Nokia, and they say they won't make it do that.
 
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Originally Posted by Tex14 View Post
and provide provisioning for Mail for Exchange so I dont have to carry two devices at once?
My guess, and hope, is never. I wouldn't want that kind of feature on my machine unless I'm the only one that can trigger it.
 
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Originally Posted by Tex14 View Post
cant sync with my server.....other nokia devices are all fine
ALL other Nokia devices or just those using Symbian? Different OS and different rules!
 
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Originally Posted by Palleman View Post
My guess, and hope, is never. I wouldn't want that kind of feature on my machine unless I'm the only one that can trigger it.
Surely the answer to this is a stand alone app that exists in a sandbox? if the exchange admin wants to do anything then he can do.

What's i'd say as well is that the exchange admin owns the data - therefore if he wants to wipe it, demand a certain type of password, etc, then he's free to do so. 'my realm, my rules'
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Originally Posted by cashclientel View Post
What's i'd say as well is that the exchange admin owns the data - therefore if he wants to wipe it, demand a certain type of password, etc, then he's free to do so. 'my realm, my rules'
The Exchange admin doesn't own the data, I do. He owns the server. If he doesn't want my data on his server, then he can disable my account and delete whatever data I've left on the server, and I'll keep my data elsewhere.

Same goes for the phone. The phone is owned by my employer (at least officially), but the data on it is mine. If he wants to, he can take the phone back, and I'll keep my data elsewhere.

I don't think a sandbox will be enough. Microsoft will never consider the phone as provisionable as long as the user has unlimited root on it.
 
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Originally Posted by Palleman View Post
The phone is owned by my employer (at least officially), but the data on it is mine.
I'd estimate that this isn't true in 99% of cases. work emails belong to... work.

And like I said, Nokia could make a stand along Exchange application separate from Modest and enable provisioning for it. That way the employer can keep control of their data ('your' work emails) and you can keep your sanity that the boss doesn't have an unleashed worm in your pocket.
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I disagree regarding the data ownership, but I agree that a separate application could be a solution. Then those who agree with you regarding the ownership can use that separate application, and those who don't can just refrain from even installing it.

But I doubt it would be enough for MS. It would be very easy for a user to move stuff out of that provisioned sandbox.
 
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Originally Posted by Fargus View Post
ALL other Nokia devices or just those using Symbian? Different OS and different rules!
Symbian.....N96, E51
 
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Originally Posted by mikhmv View Post
I would like to have Exchange client which will cheat with server.
It is mean will answer that it is provisioning device but really not....
that would also be my solution if i had the source and i could change it

But i can imagine that Nokia will not or cant do that because they have to conform some rules.

But if the open source community could build an open source solution....
Aren't there any other exchange clients for linux?
 
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