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#11
Ahhh it must suck to have such slick newer devices ...
yet not be able to use progs like real xmms
(which by the way has the ability for literally 1000"s of tunes in a playlist ..unlike so many players for our devices...and the virtualizations are not too bad either)
or even skype...
works great ...
still ....
on my n800's and n810's ..


Want skype and decent applications..?
get a proper device..
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THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGS
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N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAY
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634

THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PRO
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567

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#12
If I ever win a fortune in a lottery, I will bribe former Nokia employees to get me the sources and I will pay for development (with whatever money I'm left with)

Meego was perfect enough to survive 4 years without any updates. If you pull a 4-year old android smartphone out of the drawer today, it's begging for internet access and loads a ton of updates.

Nokia N9 would serve as a "smartphone" for another couple of years if:
- the sources were given and APIs updated for Facebook, Skype, Google, Dropbox, Picasa, Flickr, etc.
- the messaging options were extended to include official WhatsApp client, Telegram, Source, QQ, Vibe etc. to choose from.
- Maps and Drive apps were updated to be able to use Here map tiles
- several bugs were finally fixed (sudden battery drop among most annoying)

Rest is just a matter of using proper tweaking tools to adjust the phone to our tastes.
As long as I can make a call, text somebody, take a picture and listen to music, N9 is my weapon of choice. Amen.
 

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I actually don't need so much "updates" for N9 -- updated processor, a bit more ram, solved battery drops and I am good to go

On the apps side -- updated MeeRun (still gratefull that such app exist, after all) and AGTL (does not work anymore on my N9, using Jolla instead).
 

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They donīt release source code because they plan to re-release the N9
 

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Originally Posted by juiceme View Post
It seems to me that Microsoft has more or less dropped WP off their plans, nothing new comping up there, not even of their own protocols/applications.
Seems Windows Phone turned out to be the real burning platform.
But then they have been burning down platforms since WinCE.
 

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Originally Posted by sponka View Post
On the apps side -- updated MeeRun (still gratefull that such app exist, after all) and AGTL (does not work anymore on my N9, using Jolla instead).
Did you mean you need something in MeeRun for updated, or that you found a recent update? I like that program, too. If there's a later version somewhere that adds something interesting, I'd love to know.

Only two quirks as far as I'm concerned. And neither one really causes me any actual problem, just an amusing anecdote . . .

1) Only supports SI and Imperial units and not US. This is a purely academic issue for non-survey distance measurement, so is a non-issure for me. Still amusing, though. (Is the Imperial system in widespread use anywhere in 2016 outside of Belize? E.g., all the highway signs I've seen in Canada have long since switched to km. We switched all ours back to miles only under Ronald Reagan, of course.)

2) And this is the weirder but one: If you do select Imperial units and turn on the voice announcements, you hear your distance traveled every kilometer -- in miles! ("Point sixty-two miles. Three minutes, sixteen." On my bike, I'm certainly not running that fast! )

And it occurs to me that I've never tried eCoach on the N900. Mosly since I've never been sufficiently motivated and patient to sit down, read through the forums thoroughly and fix the N900 AGPS problem. Anyone here using it?

Ed. Almost forgot my Skype point after all that;

Does anyone have N900 Skype with video working with CSSU, or does it crash for you too as soon as you turn it on?

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But then, to be honest, itīs kind of pervert to have Skype installed on a Linux device.
 

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Originally Posted by robthebold View Post
Did you mean you need something in
Does anyone have N900 Skype with video working with CSSU, or does it crash for you too as soon as you turn it on?
No problem with video here on two N900s.
 

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I don't use Skype much but it is a nice back-up communication method and most people I know do use it, which makes it important. I love the system integration for Skype on my N9, still my primary phone, and it would bother me to have something visible in the beautiful system be broken. It would mar the perfection that is N9. But, I'm optimistic that it will continue to work past Oct 2016. One reason is that N9 is essentially Linux, and MS is actively developing support for Linux:
http://blogs.skype.com/2016/07/13/sk...d-chromebooks/

And the reason for Linux support is the China market. It is a critical market due to its sheer size. Looking at Warehouse downloads, the Chinese market is a huge chunk of Jolla/Harmattan users. These are also users who are very open to trying new things, obviously, and would readily switch to Skype alternatives, as opposed to Windows Phone and Blackberry users who are more likely to simply upgrade to Androids or iOS. (Or Windows 10 phone which should work -- MS now gives the same OS name for both the phone and desktop.)

The support is for a newly developed Linux client, but it may be an advantage that N9 Skype is fairly basic (no video for example) so perhaps there is nothing to break, at least unintentionally, and at least for now. So I don't think we'll be purposely killed. But Skype is "migrating to the cloud" according to the announcement and there is a fundamental difference in how new clients will operate. So I guess it depends on how Skype had been implemented on the N9, and whether any fixes will be possible.

Edit: Upon exploring the Skype web site some more, it seems the completion of migrating from a peer-to-peer use of Skype to being entirely cloud based is planned for "early 2017." (I also use a no-longer-supported MacOS, Snow Leopard, as my main Mac OS, which will still work until then even though "support" is dropped earlier. So, the client is no longer updated but peer-to-peer is not yet broken -- until "early 2017.")

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Originally Posted by dini View Post
I don't use Skype much but it is a nice back-up communication method and most people I know do use it, which makes it important. I love the system integration for Skype on my N9, still my primary phone, and it would bother me to have something visible in the beautiful system be broken. It would mar the perfection that is N9. But, I'm optimistic that it will continue to work past Oct 2016. One reason is that N9 is essentially Linux, and MS is actively developing support for Linux:
http://blogs.skype.com/2016/07/13/sk...d-chromebooks/

And the reason for Linux support is the China market. It is a critical market due to its sheer size. Looking at Warehouse downloads, the Chinese market is a huge chunk of Jolla/Harmattan users. These are also users who are very open to trying new things, obviously, and would readily switch to Skype alternatives, as opposed to Windows Phone and Blackberry users who are more likely to simply upgrade to Androids or iOS. (Or Windows 10 phone which should work -- MS now gives the same OS name for both the phone and desktop.)

The support is for a newly developed Linux client, but it may be an advantage that N9 Skype is fairly basic (no video for example) so perhaps there is nothing to break, at least unintentionally, and at least for now. So I don't think we'll be purposely killed. But Skype is "migrating to the cloud" according to the announcement and there is a fundamental difference in how new clients will operate. So I guess it depends on how Skype had been implemented on the N9, and whether any fixes will be possible.

Edit: Upon exploring the Skype web site some more, it seems the completion of migrating from a peer-to-peer use of Skype to being entirely cloud based is planned for "early 2017." (I also use a no-longer-supported MacOS, Snow Leopard, as my main Mac OS, which will still work until then even though "support" is dropped earlier. So, the client is no longer updated but peer-to-peer is not yet broken -- until "early 2017.")
In which case just get an affordable n8x0 to compliment your n9. Skype ain't goin' nowhere on the n8x0...
It's there for good.
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Owner of : 1-n770 (in retirement),
3-n800's,
3-n810's,
5-n900's
-3 flawless
-1 loose usb (i don't muck with it & stress it , considering selling it, another can fix the loose usb)
-1 no telephony (perfect for permanent set-up as mini-pc with one of my monitors)
half a neo900 pre- "bought"....due for production any day now.


PIMP MY N8X0
Everything you need tightly explained in layman's terms ..in an easy to understand format.. and a video walkthrough to boot.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAY
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634

THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PRO
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567

AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTS
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
 

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