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The e-ink screen sounds good, I read alot with my Kindle and having an (almost bezeless) e-ink on the other size just for reading or billboard usage would be awesome, (4.5-4.8 inch), with very very low power consumption.
Still, and irda+keyboard combo would still win though
 

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Originally Posted by juiceme View Post
I kind of disagreee here... Whats a camel; a horse designed by committee.
You cannot get a clear design vision out of polling randoim dudes off the net, sorry.
Might sound a bit elitist but it's a fact of life
Agree. Jolla has to give something truly innovative and revolutional to truly attract consumers after all this long waiting.
Otherwise, the device will be ignored, like BlackBerry 10: it has Swype-like interface, business-oriented features like usual, but it doesn't gain BlackBerry new consumers - at most, it protects the company from losing its usual customers, business men.
The fact is, with world-wide economic crisis continuing, people would prefer to continue using their old phones. They can make and accept calls, include a game or two; there is no need to buy a shiny new toy if it is not much different from the old one.
Waterproof and shockproof smartphones may get a modicum of interest from the public since the concept of invulnerable and comfortable-to-use device is both tempting and unattainable.
The Jolla's concept is revolutional. Imagine: by changing the other half, you switch from private-contacts, and memory with private documents, to business-contacts, and memory with business documents.
You can have as many "other halves" as you wish, enabling ultimate information security. It's like exchanging microSD cards - only much easier to use, since microSD cards can be lost or confused easily.
Originally Posted by Fawz View Post
He says it almost verbatim in this interview. He also himself mentions examples of use as a bigger flash and bigger battery, so it's not just rumour.

What puzzles me is that they focus *so much* on being able to change the colors when they apparently plan to provide a way to actually change and adapt the hardware components (und thus use cases) of your phone.
Many people probably mentioned it earlier: to maintain customers' interest in the phone, they release this information slowly. Also, they release hardware information only after securing contract with hardware manufacturer, to avoid ridiculously high prices from these mongers.
Now... Who remembers MobileMind, an N900-program allowing to control a robot-car through bluetooth, with artificial intelligence to follow colour-marked route? Bluetooth uses a lot of power, as any wireless technology. Now imagine that a toy-car, or toy-helicopter, or toy-hawk, instead of being radio-controlled, has interface to be attached to Jolla phone as "the other half". With appropriate application, you can have mobile artificial intelligence. It would have one-or-two cameras and wireless connectivity (cellular, radio, WirelessLAN, Bluetooth) and speakers-microphone of Jolla phone, it would have wheels of whatever other half you attached, it would probably be waterproof...
It would be ultimate runaway phone. The owner would have to ask a passer-by.
Can you please send an SMS to my phone to find out where it is? My phone has run away, and I don't know to which location it could have possibly decided to go...
And the passer-by would answer.
Oh, yes, of course. What's your phone number? Are you using program X? It has a well-known bug Y. I personally use a dog's leash to avoid this problem.
I expect that Jolla will manufacture only Jolla phone and many colours of mundane-other-half. Exotic other halves would be manufactured by other companies who would have to pay to Jolla for permission to use OtherHalf interface - patents can be useful like that - and Jolla would advertise some of these other-halves by producing open-source software to interact with them.
Some possible OtherHalf ideas:
rotating camera with optical zoom which can easily create a panorama by itself without forcing the human to rotate the whole device;
hardware keyboard (different shapes of it);
wireless charging and-or large battery and-or solar charger;
optical camera magnifier and-or telescope and-or microscope;
custom car holder - even better, the whole car as OtherHalf, wholly interfaced with the phone, and driven by artificial intelligence application on Jolla phone;
fingerprint security recognition and-or heart rate and-or iris recognition and-or blood analysis (imagine: OtherHalf with medical tools for ambulanceman, with software and hardware uniquely suited for this task);
projector and-or flashlight and-or laser and-or secondary small OLED display and-or eink display;
oh, yes, weather-based chameleon would be awesome, too - only, it should have barometer, thermometer, magnetometer, light sensor, and humidity meter, to detect weather without having to use Internet.

Originally Posted by Drekkie View Post
Many great ideas that I won't repeat.

A "nice to have" would be a digital DJ-oriented half that has multiple line-outs for both monitoring in headphones and the master signal for speakers...

I think I would generally go for a more expensive half that does many "necessary" things moderately well then a multitude of halves that just do one thing really well. I can't see myself owning more than 3-4 halves: 1 for everyday use (that did storage, battery stuff), and a few for application-specific use like serious photography, DJing, or car use.

I don't think I would do profile-specific halves like they mentioned, it's too trivial a use-case for me (work vs freetime). I would want to minimize the situations where I was wishing I brought an alternate half with me.
About ports: It's possible that Jolla first got OtherHalf idea from looking at debug-service modules and thinking: why cannot these debug ports of Jolla phone be made more accessible, so that it would be easier to debug the hardware?

About expensive-cheap multifunctional-vs-profile-specific; some occasions, like geology or medicine, might require specific instruments, and having precise and computer-assisted instruments in a profile-specific OtherHalf would be extremely helpful. But yes, most people don't need such profile-specific OtherHalves, and will choose multifunctional OtherHalves. But these multifunctional devices will not include a microscope-or-whatever to analyse a stone and say which mineral it is made of.

Best wishes.

Since Jolla will grant franchises on OtherHalf to other companies, the resulting concepts will be created by a committee of the most successful companies, and the final products will be an Arabian or Bactrian camel, a dromedary, a llama. And it will be all the better for that. In my opinion, the proud and hardy camel is better than a well-groomed horse.
 

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I'm sorry I haven't had the time to catch up with everything jolla since I came back home from the alps.

One question: Did they share any information about the way the OH is connected to the main device electronically? Although they say only our imagination is the limit, I'm afraid wiring will be. (I mean... there's no way to add a DVB-T-receiver as proposed here if the circuits can only handle the typical data rate of a keyboard... or a second screen is out of the question if you can only get data in, not out... etc etc)
 

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other half with sim-card and microsdhc chip: this would make an excellent "work other half", for those who need a separate work number but do not wish to carry multiple devices.
 

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Originally Posted by OVK View Post
Is there anything concrete information about how the other half works? Has anyone asked (Twitter?) Jolla about this?

This information must be available at least for hardware partners. Does it take a company to become their partner or can our community become one?
They hide it and will probadly leak some info later on.

There is plenty of reason why they hide info. MANY copycats out there.
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I'd love to see an OH with another processor for running heavy software in sort of a two-machine distributed network. USB might support that but I doubt serial over GPIO could.

You know how some cars only require the key be near-by? Build that into an OH.
 

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An OH that is a printer, credit card scanner, as a point-of-sale device with a real paper reciept


Or a photo-quality printer like an old school polaroid

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Haha, spent like an hour researching all available info and stuff to make a thread discussing the facts on this but it f***ing disappeared!

My fav idea:

the OH mounts into the head unit in your vehicle (becoming the screen, and effectively all of the cpu bits). This, would make me buy this phone.
 

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Originally Posted by Wikiwide View Post
it should have barometer, thermometer, magnetometer, light sensor, and humidity meter, to detect weather without having to use Internet.
Yeah' also got the idea od including additional (or more sensitive) sensors when I've remembered the Navigation board[1] - IT has accelerometer, barometer, magnetotometer and a gyroscope + some pins free for use. So if there indeed is an electrical interface, it could be usable almost of the shelf. :-)

[1] http://shop.goldelico.com/wiki.php?p...gation%20Board
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