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	dos1	2013-10-11 , 23:57
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The Neo900 website has just gained a RSS feed and ability to subscribe to the newsletter by e-mail. Better late than never

Neo900

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	nokiabot	2013-10-12 , 04:24
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any possiblites of selecting cell towers like in old nokias fdt netmoniter ? I want to manually select a available tower because its less crowded

works better with good speed in 2.5g

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	joerg_rw	2013-10-12 , 04:39
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Originally Posted by nokiabot

any possiblites of selecting cell towers like in old nokias fdt netmoniter ? I want to manually select a available tower because its less crowded works better with good speed in 2.5g

Unclear yet, but I'm also very interested *) in netmonitor and it been a pity for BB5 that it doesn't support it. So while we have little choice of the modem we gonna use, I for sure will try to find out about such "hidden features" in the modem we get on Neo900.

Originally Posted by dos1
Yes. The plan is to get complete feature-set of
N900, but augmented with some new stuff. If
there'll be something that won't be possible
to retain, we'll inform about it.
But actually, IR will be there for sure. Maybe
even with rx, so IrDA compatible one.
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_Originally posted by Copernicious
i certainly be willing to recompile Pierogi for the Neo900 if
needed.

WTH, is this your signature?
Anyway, there mustn't be a need to recompile anything, since IR like everything should be compatible to N900. Maybe Pierogi needs a patch for learning mode though ;-D

/j

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	nokiabot	2013-10-12 , 06:33
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Originally Posted by joerg_rw

Unclear yet, but I'm also very interested *) in netmonitor and it been a pity for BB5 that it doesn't support it. So while we have little choice of the modem we gonna use, I for sure will try to find out about such "hidden features" in the modem we get on Neo900. WTH, is this your signature? Anyway, there mustn't be a need to recompile anything, since IR like everything should be compatible to N900. Maybe Pierogi needs a patch for learning mode though ;-D /j *) the beer still hasn't been claimed by anybody ;-)

editing that

btw m just pursing my studies long way to go and heck someone dear just got diagonised with heart blocks and dearest with some rare problem ...hard times

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TDSii	2013-10-12 , 15:51
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2GB RAM please!
deal with it as a highend device

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	dos1	2013-10-12 , 15:55
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Originally Posted by TDSii

2GB RAM please!
deal with it as a highend device

We hardly overcame 512 MB limit. 1 GB is the best we can do (not that it won't be already enough - four times the amount in N900)

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	fw190	2013-10-12 , 16:18
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Justo to be clear - will there be any of those fast swap or not?

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	dos1	2013-10-12 , 16:22
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Originally Posted by fw190

Justo to be clear - will there be any of those fast swap or not?

From early feasibility studies looks like actually providing 1 GB RAM instead of 512 MB and doing something weird to also include NAND will be easier than that "fast swap" idea.

Of course things may still change.

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	joerg_rw	2013-10-12 , 16:41
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DM37xx (like OMAP35xx and all OMAP3) has a memory addr space of max 8Gbit == 1GByte http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index....DRAM_Selection - by NO means we will get more than 1GB of RAM.
The fast-swap idea fails due to no chips with that properties (RAM via MMC interface) exist, and we can't create our own proprietary bus/memory-controller/interface just to hook up RAM to the MMC bus.
The only RAM interface on DM3730 is on top of the SoC chip on PoP balls ("DRAM - PoP only. SDRC signals occur only on top balls"), thus we will try to find a PoP chip that provides 1GB RAM in two banks a 512MB via 2 ChipSelect and works on LPDDR1@200MHz with the right voltage
Since such chips are not available with NAND on board (max that's publicly known is 512RAM/512NAND, N9 using a PoP chip custom made for Nokia and aunt google never heard of that chip), we will add NAND via the bottom flash interface ("Flash - PoP or discrete - All GPMC signals are on both top and bottom balls"), unless we find spare PoP or complete SoC for N9.

Thanks for accepting reality, we don't decide to get specs that maximally annoy users. Rather we do our very best to fulfill your requests whenever possible.

jOERG

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	fw190	2013-10-12 , 18:30
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Thank you for the extensive explanation. I'm certain that the team is doeing its best for the project. I was just asking about the swap as always while instaling linux on my PC I made swap and this is the way it was planed here but it changed. Now it is clear.

I'm not a tech person but a die hard N900 user since 4 years (bought it when it was first available in Poland) and probably a die hard user of Neo900

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