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#101
Originally Posted by specc View Post
I was not. In fact I explicitly said that coating was a likely possibility, but I did not believe it was a paint.

As it stands, this seems to be the fact. It is not painted, but the surface is prepped with a clear coating (matte or shiny), similar to what is done with head lights on cars. However, this does not rule out the possibility of fakes nor the possibility of discarded batches entering the market.

In any case this truly sucks. It strips away the design edge the N9 had. Now it is just poor engineering.
Just to add salt to the wound, later on in that Phone Show Chat episode, the chap from Engagdet goes on to talk about new phones from (I think) HTC, and he says they are made from polycarbonate also, agreeing that they stole the idea from Nokia, but these devices do NOT have the coating. Isn't that what you expected of our N9s, going by what was said at the launch? I feel a bit cheated also, although my blue one isn't showing any signs of chipping/wear/peeling yet. The usb cover is still pristine and I use the freebie silicone case, so hopefully it'll last a while yet.
 
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#102
Originally Posted by spec
I was not.
Just a few examples I could quickly dig up (coulda sworn there was some others, deleted?)
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...2&postcount=19
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...0&postcount=38
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=44
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...6&postcount=81

You certainly sounded pretty righteous that those with issues had fakes.
To the point where peeps were telling you to STFU already.
Now we know the issue most of them were having with the body, was due to this clear coat.

In any case this truly sucks.
Agreed.

It strips away the design edge the N9 had. Now it is just poor engineering.
Really

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#103
Friend of mine has a N9, he never got it from that silicone thing, and look what happened:



Now, this phone is made in China, for Singapore. SIM tray and USB door are painted, no dobt about that, but I noticed the color is not the same as on phone's body. Another thing too, I compared my usb door and sim tray with those on this pic and those are thicker than mine.
 
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#104
Originally Posted by jalyst View Post
Just a few examples I could quickly dig up (coulda sworn there was some others, deleted?)
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...2&postcount=19
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...0&postcount=38
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=44
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...6&postcount=81

You certainly sounded pretty righteous that those with issues had fakes.
To the point where peeps were telling you to STFU already.
Now we know the issue most of them were having with the body, was due to this clear coat.



Agreed.



Really
Ha, you beat me to it...contradictions galore, no place for him here.
 

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#105
Originally Posted by cm6 View Post
Alright, yesterday I got a Lumia 800 for trial, which meant I had to compare it with my 4-month-old N9. So I removed the rubber cover & I found this.



The matte layer has indeed worn off. How? It's my own fault because I hadn't removed the cover since a few months and it definitely hasn't coped well with the sweat and heat while inside my pocket (I live in a country with a very warm weather).

Clearly, Nokia haven't tested it under this extreme weather condition.
oh man... i live in Singapore, which is warm and humid. does that mean my phone will become like this after a few months? i'm using the cover from the box.

i am quite disappointed/underwhelmed after just owning the phone for a few days because there seems to be so many problems with it.

my phone is really laggy too. especially in the first few hours of using the phone after buying it.

so disappointing... i had high hopes.
 
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#106
Originally Posted by willywonka View Post
oh man... i live in Singapore, which is warm and humid. does that mean my phone will become like this after a few months? i'm using the cover from the box.

i am quite disappointed/underwhelmed after just owning the phone for a few days because there seems to be so many problems with it.

my phone is really laggy too. especially in the first few hours of using the phone after buying it.

so disappointing... i had high hopes.
Relax, you can wrap your phone, for lagginess, clear the cache, and make sure you are on pr 1.2. Lots of very cool stuff in store for the future of this phone.
 
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#107
Originally Posted by specc View Post

In any case this truly sucks. It strips away the design edge the N9 had. Now it is just poor engineering.
Since almost any Nokia loses its coating I'd rather call this an example of poor marketing.
There was a misunderstanding in marketing department to assume this one did not have any coating.

To copy the Polycarbonate / Unibody hymn from apple to excuse the lack of coating was ridiculous and now backfiring.

Nice to see at least they tried to apply a coating. Poor engineering lays in using the wrong coating, making the phone body very slippery.
 
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#108
I see "experts" everywhere, jk
 

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#109
Originally Posted by jalyst View Post
I see "experts" everywhere, jk
That's right after 20 years of using this kind of stuff and stumbling on same flaws over and over, one becomes expert.
One shop keeper could even witness (and care less about) my prior to purchase complaint about poor embedding of Nokia N900 USB connector, not worthy of flagship.
Bought it anyway, but decided to be careful
 
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#110
Originally Posted by mämo View Post
That said, I'd also not put it beyond some companies in China to get spare part interiors, couple them with knock-off housings and sell them as genuine N9s. Especially when it's all overseas customers who can't go after the company.
So you're saying that they will get genuine inside bits and enclose in a fake case then sell it as a genuine N9? The most expensive parts I assume would be the innards. Saving pennies on using fake cases as opposed to the real thing isn't going to make these companies that much richer.
 
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