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2009-06-04
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Hi Quim,
I mived the draft schedule and a bunch of other schedule related questions to http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Summit_2009/Schedule in the wiki to try to keep the main page cleaner.
Cheers,
Dave.
Originally Posted by qgil
This sounds great! A few questions that probably need resolving before we get started on community content are:
* Saturday 10: Community driven agenda TBD
* Sunday 11: Community driven agenda TBD
http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Summit_2009#Schedule_DRAFT
If you agree on the Nokia day then Peter is happy to start working on the agenda.
We need to discuss then the 2 community days scope, main tracks, audiences... It would be good to have purte community members driving that. I can help with my pure community shirt and also keeping the link with Maemo Devices if needed.
The objective would be to define the placeholders for the 3 days so people like fms can start filling it with proposed sessions.
- How do we select content? will the council do it, will there be some kind of Summit presentations committee? If so, how will it get chosen?
- Timeline: Summer is almost upon us and with Summer holidays typically being in July in Finland, we will need to get a move-on with the call for papers.
- Infrastructure: How will we manage collecting presentation proposals? A mailing list, submissions in the wiki, a Midgard module, or some other specialised solution? If we're going for the low-tech solution, the workload for the papers committee will be greater, and the risk of error (an overlooked proposal, or an error in transcribing) is higher, but if we go for some kind of conference infrastructure, it will take time to set up.
- Talk formats: This will decide how many talk slots are available - how long will talks be? With what breaks? How many talk slots will there be in the day?
I mived the draft schedule and a bunch of other schedule related questions to http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Summit_2009/Schedule in the wiki to try to keep the main page cleaner.
Cheers,
Dave.
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2009-06-04
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I'd say people should add their name, a proposed talk title, short description and a presentation length to the wiki. Far easier to keep track of all the proposals that way than having to trawl through either a mailing list or the forum.
I should add that once we know what sorts of talks people want to do, it should be easier to plan the structure of the day, numbers of talks, sessions (depending on the number of topics and how they could be streamed), etc.
I should add that once we know what sorts of talks people want to do, it should be easier to plan the structure of the day, numbers of talks, sessions (depending on the number of topics and how they could be streamed), etc.
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2009-06-04
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Originally Posted by lardman
Managing potentially dozens of proposals in the wiki doesn't sound easy to me.
I'd say people should add their name, a proposed talk title, short description and a presentation length to the wiki. Far easier to keep track of all the proposals that way than having to trawl through either a mailing list or the forum.
Ideally, we would have a situation where each proposal is 1 page, and we have a summary with presenter/title and the one line summary linking to the proposal. But getting people submitting proposals to respect posting guidelines is difficult.
Originally Posted by lardman
I agree, we should be flexible & see what comes out of the call for content - but we have time & space limits which we should be aware of. Let's say we're working with 40 minute presentations, with 5 minutes break between each one, and a half an hour morning break and half an hour afternoon break, and a 1.5 hour lunch. You end up with
I should add that once we know what sorts of talks people want to do, it should be easier to plan the structure of the day, numbers of talks, sessions (depending on the number of topics and how they could be streamed), etc.
09:00 - 09:45: Presentation 1
09:45 - 10:30: Presentation 2
10:30 - 11:00: BREAK
11:00 - 11:45: Presentation 3
11:45 - 12:30: Presentation 4
12:30 - 14:00: LUNCH
14:00 - 14:45: Presentation 5
14:45 - 15:30: Presentation 6
15:30 - 16:00: BREAK
16:00 - 16:45: Presentation 7
16:45 - 17:30: Presentation 8
End of day
So we have 24 presentation slots per day, max.
Cheers,
Dave.
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2009-06-04
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Originally Posted by dneary
Don't forget the lightning talks
I agree, we should be flexible & see what comes out of the call for content - but we have time & space limits which we should be aware of. Let's say we're working with 40 minute presentations, with 5 minutes break between each one, and a half an hour morning break and half an hour afternoon break, and a 1.5 hour lunch. You end up with
09:00 - 09:45: Presentation 1
09:45 - 10:30: Presentation 2
10:30 - 11:00: BREAK
11:00 - 11:45: Presentation 3
11:45 - 12:30: Presentation 4
12:30 - 14:00: LUNCH
14:00 - 14:45: Presentation 5
14:45 - 15:30: Presentation 6
15:30 - 16:00: BREAK
16:00 - 16:45: Presentation 7
16:45 - 17:30: Presentation 8
End of day
So we have 24 presentation slots per day, max.
Cheers,
Dave.
.By your assumptions, I see that you are pointing for 3 tracks at the same time. For a small audience (yes, 300 persons is a small audience) the schedule should be carefully done, probably the rooms should be divide by intended audience (developers/power users/users...), instead of the usual themes/areas (desktop/multimedia...). We can't make everyone happy, but trying to avoid very related presentations at the same time should be a good start, people usually get pissed when they have two presentations at the same time, that they like to attend. As participants, some of you already experienced that situation for sure
.About the call for papers, I don't know the amount of submissions that you are expecting, but agree that the wiki isn't the best option to organize it.
How was it done in the 2008 summit ?
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2009-06-04
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Originally Posted by VDVsx
Indeed - these should have 1 or 2 sessions with no competition.
Don't forget the lightning talks
For a small audience (yes, 300 persons is a small audience) the schedule should be carefully done, probably the rooms should be divide by intended audience (developers/power users/users...), instead of the usual themes/areas (desktop/multimedia...).
We can't make everyone happy, but trying to avoid very related presentations at the same time should be a good start, people usually get pissed when they have two presentations at the same time, that they like to attend. As participants, some of you already experienced that situation for sure
About the call for papers, I don't know the amount of submissions that you are expecting, but agree that the wiki isn't the best option to organize it.
How was it done in the 2008 summit ?
Dave.
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2009-06-04
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Also don't forget to leave 5 minutes between talks as the talks are split over different venues. Moving from one building to another should be taken into consideration.
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2009-06-04
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#28
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Originally Posted by Baloo
Quim,
Also don't forget to leave 5 minutes between talks as the talks are split over different venues. Moving from one building to another should be taken into consideration.
can you comment about the distance between the 3 rooms ?
Exist a inside pathway between them or you need to go outside to switch between rooms ?
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2009-06-04
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#29
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Originally Posted by Baloo
Thus my suggestion 40 mins + 5 mins break...
Also don't forget to leave 5 minutes between talks as the talks are split over different venues. Moving from one building to another should be taken into consideration.
Dave.
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2009-06-04
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Last year we used the wiki and actually presenters and organizers were happy about the system. If we go for something different at least it would be good to know what problems found last year are you trying to address.
Three tracks, yes. What about thinking by default on users (big room), app developers (medium) and platform developers (small). We can always adapt for specific cases.
Lightning sessions with everybody in the room are proven to be successful and are also a way to canalize presentations that didn't make it as own sessions.
We can also think about 2-4 keynote sessions in the two community days. If we have speakers with the guts, the skills and the content.
The medium and small rooms are next to each other with a common door from the outside. The big room is 1 minute away walking a straight line in the park. No crossing streets or anything.
Three tracks, yes. What about thinking by default on users (big room), app developers (medium) and platform developers (small). We can always adapt for specific cases.
Lightning sessions with everybody in the room are proven to be successful and are also a way to canalize presentations that didn't make it as own sessions.
We can also think about 2-4 keynote sessions in the two community days. If we have speakers with the guts, the skills and the content.
The medium and small rooms are next to each other with a common door from the outside. The big room is 1 minute away walking a straight line in the park. No crossing streets or anything.
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