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I've currently have a GSM phone on a voice-only plan from a local company. The n900 is really looking sweet, so I thought I might just by one and stick my SIM card in it and use it as a phone + WiFi internet tablet. This should work out pretty well sense I spend most of my time with WiFi coverage.

Can anyone think of any gotchas with that plan? The fact that I have voice service but no (mobile) data shouldn't be a problem right? What about the assisted GPS? Am I going to wait 5 minutes for an initial fix or does it use cell tower data that is available with voice-only service? Will the mapping/navigating work with no data connection (ie have at least the local maps cached via wifi)?

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The fact that I have voice service but no (mobile) data shouldn't be a problem right?
I used it like that for years before I switched to a different provider with cheaper data. Simply set data connection to "WLAN only" in Settings -> Internet connections and you are done.
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as you can see if you look in similar threads, your biggest woe will be browsing the Internet, if that's part of your intended use case.

A-GPS should work fine

as for mapping, probably the best application is Modrana .. I don't know if it has offline maps, as I don't use it. For my area, the old Ovi Maps tiles are still good enough most of the time, so that's what I use.
 

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Since a data plan costs me extra and I don't really need that I haven't booked it for years.
AGPS via wifi works fine, but I've never seen it working via cell towers. Depending on how many satellites I see it does sometimes take 5 minutes to get a fix.

Whether navigation works without a data connection depends on the application you use. My experiences so far:

Navit: purely vector based and has its own routing algorithm.
So once you've downloaded the data for your area (e.g. the Germany data has about 2GB) you're fully independent. The lack of raster data might be a problem though, if you're used to orientation by topography.

Modrana: uses raster data and has its own routing algorithm as well as online routing.
So you should download the raster tiles in advance. Both algorithms seem to work equally well. My main gripe is, that you can't change routing tracks by hand, e.g. because you know the suggested route isn't optimal.

Marble: uses raster data and online routing.
Unfortunately the Marble version on the N900 is very old and the routing API has changed since then. So it can't find tracks on its own anymore, but you can still import tracks from a more recent Marble version and routing with it works fine. Alternatively you can use a more recent Marble version via Easy Debian, but that comes at the cost of a cumbersome UI because it's not optimized for a 3.5" single-touch screen.

Mappero: I haven't used this in years, so this is just namedropping for reference.
I don't even know if it still works. I think it was raster data and online routing but my memory might trick me. Basically it had nothing for me that Marble didn't have.

I prefer Marble, because despite its shortcomings, as a cyclist I heavily rely on manual track adjustment and topography.
I must say though, that I still prefer paper maps. So I rarely navigate via smartphone. For me it's basically just a stopgap, which might make me unusually willing to compromise.
 

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What country are you in? Most providers, should include at least 5 GIG of data with almost any phone plan. I am in Australia and I am with Boost Mobile. For $30 a month I get 3GIG and unlimited phone calls. Can't expect it to be cheaper for value than that!
Anyway, yeah the N900 is a great phone, with or without a sim card.
 
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For years I had only a prepaid SIM(we have free incoming calls paid by caller) and only used wifi data; I saved the prepaid credit, which lasted for 365 days, to send out SMSs when required. I dont know if there is another phone as well suited for being mostly offline as the n900. At the time Evopedia was doing regular offline wikipedia releases and I had scripts to grab favorite websites and podcasts while I had internet in the bus station.

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