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2016-01-03 , 07:47
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Originally Posted by marmistrz View Post
Well, what I mean is: we have libhybris. [...] Shouldn't it be trivial to install Linux on any Android device?
If it was, these https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris would be all green.

Android hardware adaptations are full of horrible hacks. And libhybris is a hack on top of these hacks, not a silver bullet.

If an Android hardware adaptation is decent, libhybris works pretty much out of hand.
But if it is a hack, one needs to find out and port the hacks to make libhybris work.
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Hmmm... Basically the only one listed with full compat is Xperia Pro... which has hw kbd
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#63
What about keyboards for portable consoles like Nintendo DS ?

http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/03/w...-nintendo-3ds/
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Can send you a jolla+hwkbd for a tryout, XWayland is already running if you plan to interact just with keys (mouse/touch input needs work still afaik), closest to n900 it gets until neo, though that still is/will be on ageing libc/glibc/younameit so newer things won't work. If the things you need for work can be waylanized it's the way to go, if closed... n900 is still king prolly
 

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#65
as there are android phones with simalar to n900 specs why cannot libhybris or android drivers or maemo on similar device does not work i mean whats wrong with software as software has lot more customisablity than hardware
some body answer this in a sane to understand langague which dosent go too overly techinical please
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#66
hummity-hum-hum...
xperia pro has quite the list of linux running on it too...
there we go.
problem solved...
(other than it is capacitive screen ..yuckie...but ...[sigh] ...bearable...)
ok that settles it...
everybody..!
time to buy up xperia`s and get maem runnin`
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Originally Posted by Ken-Young View Post
I've seen even less evidence that SailfishOS actually can work as an X11 server.
Was this not enough?

Yes, input needs work. Touch is useless, mouse I've never tried (maybe via BT... hum...), and all stylus I've tried were garbage. I don't know what my next device is going to be now that Jolla has lost it, but I'll have a stylus.

That, I'm sure of.



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With that said, I've lost myself quite a bit of interest in using phones as a mobile computer, as I already mentioned somewhere else... X11 is one of the reasons, albeit minor one.

The major reason is divergence with the desktop. I've grown tired of thinking "no, can't use haskell on this project, because it'll be a pain to port to WhateverArmLinuxDistributionI'mCurrentlyUsingToday ". Can't use this python module, can't use this newer version of this random C++ library, or can't use this compiler feature.

When I got my Surface the convenience of running the same damn Gentoo disk image I run on the rest of my desktops... well. It can't be overstated enough. The Jolla comes close, but as my free time gets reduced, my sensibility for small 'paper cuts' increases... and I admit Gentoo for ARM is full of them.

So, if I ever return to "mobile computing", it'll be on a device I can run a damn stock Gentoo and no crappy "mobile" distro where even getting a sane /usr/bin/man is a nuisance, or I have to battle the host system just to listen to the microphone, get my daemon to run on startup, or actually be able to perform useful work without being killed or suspended.

If that means x86-only and 10 year old GPU, I don't care (but sadly, I'd mind the battery...)

If I can run a simple phone dialer application on top of Gentoo, for the better. If touch-friendly versions of PIM are also available, then more for the better.
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@javispedro: it's why I think about running Gnome Shell/Unity on N900/N950, since it could suit a mobile device (rather than a computer). But I won't experience with my main device and N950 needs much work.

@all: Yeah, xperia ain't bad. But, it's oldish, so I doubt it's the right direction. Can you find anything that runs Android, is similar to the N900 and has the right spec. And most preferably - a resistive screen, it's one of the reasons I'd favor N900 to the N950 even if it had the same OS.
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But the n900 is slow by today's standards (although I should keep reminding myself that I used to apply for grants to pay for CPU time on a VAX 11/780 !) and it's just too easy to exhaust the RAM on an N900 if you start doing anything serious. Once it starts swapping, you might as well give up on whatever you're trying to do.
You should give it a chance.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=debian900
 

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I think the closest modern device to N900 is BlackBerry Passport Silver Edition with Android.



The BlackBerry OS version is already on the market for a while now, but this isn't yet released, not even officially announced.

Running Linux on this device will undoubtedly resemble the N900 experience.
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