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2014-12-17
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#151
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https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-...bootstrapping/
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2014-12-17
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Originally Posted by Morpog
interesting read, one thing though, they claim the intel chipset will only have android drivers? find it hard to believe (maybe I'm misreading it but they do mention need of writing native sailfish drivers, wouldn't those be just generic linux drivers?)
https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-...bootstrapping/
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2014-12-17
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Originally Posted by szopin
No, that's about that everything comes in one package, choose one, have to choose all, from technical perspective. See comment on camera.
interesting read, one thing though, they claim the intel chipset will only have android drivers? find it hard to believe (maybe I'm misreading it but they do mention need of writing native sailfish drivers, wouldn't those be just generic linux drivers?)
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2014-12-17
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Originally Posted by szopin
IIRC the issue is that the Android drivers are available now and are usable for what they need + they are using Android drivers almost everywhere else. The native drivers also kinda exists but from what I remember from IRC/Together/etc. they are either not as performant, incomplete or both. Also I have seen some hints that the Alien Dalvik Android emulation layer might need some Android bits and pieces to work correctly.
interesting read, one thing though, they claim the intel chipset will only have android drivers? find it hard to believe (maybe I'm misreading it but they do mention need of writing native sailfish drivers, wouldn't those be just generic linux drivers?)
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2014-12-17
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Originally Posted by MartinK
if you follow that logic why not just use android? i think there is need to make something native from scratch...
IIRC the issue is that the Android drivers are available now and are usable for what they need + they are using Android drivers almost everywhere else. The native drivers also kinda exists but from what I remember from IRC/Together/etc. they are either not as performant, incomplete or both. Also I have seen some hints that the Alien Dalvik Android emulation layer might need some Android bits and pieces to work correctly.
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2014-12-17
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Originally Posted by ZogG
Well, as long as only the Android drivers are used and the rest is a fairly normal glibc using Linux distro, I'm fine with that.
if you follow that logic why not just use android? i think there is need to make something native from scratch...
BTW, for comparison, Firefox OS went a slightly different way, reusing much more of Android, it is not even using glibc but bionic. It is more or less Android - Dalvik + Firefox as a single fullscreen application providing the whole GUI.
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2014-12-17
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Originally Posted by MartinK
i wouldn't comment on that, as my problem with FirefoxOs is that it's not native (html5 is not exactly native) in first place.
Well, as long as only the Android drivers are used and the rest is a fairly normal glibc using Linux distro, I'm fine with that.
BTW, for comparison, Firefox OS went a slightly different way, reusing much more of Android, it is not even using glibc but bionic. It is more or less Android - Dalvik + Firefox as a single fullscreen application providing the whole GUI.
As for drivers, i think the problem here is that if you depend on android and use parts of it, you'll be in shadow of it. i might be wrong on that one, and it's really more of own believes as i can live with that, i just don't agree with that.
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2014-12-17
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps
Not sure if camera part got trimmed, seen one sentence, but kudos about the uefi/secureboot/fastboot part, hopefully people who care about those so loudly can come in and voice their objections while things can still be changed. Looking forward to more of these posts
No, that's about that everything comes in one package, choose one, have to choose all, from technical perspective. See comment on camera.
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any word about 3G yet ?
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2014-12-17
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Originally Posted by ZogG
Yeah, I also don't like how it is forcing you to use only HTML5 and Javascript for app development. Actually I don't like any platform that wants to prevent you from writing application in Python for political (not technical) reasons.
i wouldn't comment on that, as my problem with FirefoxOs is that it's not native (html5 is not exactly native) in first place.
Originally Posted by ZogG
I still thing it is understandable and probably necessary in the current unhealthy mobile device space climate ("Android or GTFO").
As for drivers, i think the problem here is that if you depend on android and use parts of it, you'll be in shadow of it. i might be wrong on that one, and it's really more of own believes as i can live with that, i just don't agree with that.
But you really need to make sure to dump as much of Android as possible and to use only the smallest part possible, so that you are not forced to incorporate the various unfortunate/bad/stupid/batshit insane Android design decisions into your project.
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