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2010-12-08
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Originally Posted by danramos
I don't disagree but as Nokia are still, I assume, selling the device I thought we would at least get some support until a meego device arrived next summer. The N900 must go down as one of the shortest supported smartphones ever?
Nobody likes it whenever we point it out, but I would argue that my opinion is it's already finished. We've been saying it for a few months now: Maemo's dead, man.
Understandably, nobody that invested in the device (especially back when it was $650) wants to hear that but the signs were already sprinkled around in little things Nokia said and in their actions. The clearly desperate action of trying to turn Maemo into yet another iPhone competing "me too!" device instead of growing it into a proper Internet Tablet in the very market segment it had carved out for itself was, in my opinion, an epic blunder. Now everyone is suddenly jumping onboard the tablet bandwagon right after Nokia abandoned it. Dolts!
Continuing the practices that the previous Internet Tablet owners had been mistreated to, such as Nokia's lack of communication, support and unwillingness to fix bugs or at least open up THEIR OWN SOURCE CODE to the community to let them support themselves, is another series of epic blunders. It's incredible that the company errs on the side of keeping source code CLOSED on an open-source platform so that only Nokia can fix most of the problems. Why? Is Nokia's source code just that horribly embarrassing that they would prefer not to let it see the light of day? Why err on the side of closed? Bumbling idiots.
There's no bragging points if you're suddenly shifting your strategy to a "me too!" platform if you're going to just do what your competition has been doing, and no better.
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2010-12-08
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Can we change the topic of this to something more accurate, like "Person makes angry comment on bug tracker, closes bug."
I doubt it's too far from the truth but let's not go stuffing words in people's mouths.
I doubt it's too far from the truth but let's not go stuffing words in people's mouths.
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2010-12-08
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Originally Posted by msa
That would be sweet, and VERY smart if they did that. As it would keep most of us with Nokia and Meego.
how about nokia offering 50% discount on the n9 when we send our n900's in? :P
I have been VERY tempted to go Android.
Originally Posted by benny1967
I never heard of a $600+ device from any other brand with such lousy and short lived support.
i payed for a phone. i got a phone. nothing changed.
nobody payed for any kind of service.
Yes this was always intended as a geek / developer's tool, step 5 of 6 or whatever... but really Nokia?
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2010-12-08
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Originally Posted by ymartin59
Snake oil vendors also needed to make money and moved around a lot, geographically. I'm not saying Nokia is selling snake oil, but selling customers on high expectations and then delivering a mediocre or poor experience sure tastes funny. It might not foster return customers either. I wonder if that's why Nokia went from selling Maemo as an Internet Tablet OS to a Smart Phone OS? You know.. moving around a bit to snare a new set of victims to trick? :P Clearly, the 770/N8x0 crowd was already smart to Nokia's tactics by the time the N900 came out and I don't see a lot of that same ITT crowd here very much anymore.
Well, Nokia needs to make money and discontinue N900 is a way for better sales for the future MeeGo device... My opinion is that the new Nokia's CEO probably considers OpenSource bad for business. Even Symbian returns to closed development model.
Originally Posted by droitwichgas
No, I think that distinction might actually go to the Microsoft Kin. Never fear, Nokia can always keep trying to aim lower. I'm sure they'll eventually get there at this rate.
I don't disagree but as Nokia are still, I assume, selling the device I thought we would at least get some support until a meego device arrived next summer. The N900 must go down as one of the shortest supported smartphones ever?
Originally Posted by wmarone
You paid $650 for your N900,. didn't you?
Can we change the topic of this to something more accurate, like "Person makes angry comment on bug tracker, closes bug."
I doubt it's too far from the truth but let's not go stuffing words in people's mouths.
Originally Posted by benny1967
If all you wanted was a phone, dude, you really overpaid. Just saying.
i payed for a phone. i got a phone. nothing changed.
nobody payed for any kind of service.
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Nokia's slogan shouldn't be the pedo-palmgrabbing image with the slogan, "Connecting People"... It should be one hand open pleadingly with another hand giving the middle finger and the more apt slogan, "Potential Unrealized." --DR
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2010-12-08
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It's four of five. 770, n800, n810, n900. The n9 would be step 5 if it was "real" maemo. Now it's more like step 1 on another ladder.
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2010-12-08
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Originally Posted by benny1967
this comment is wrong on so many levels.
i payed for a phone. i got a phone. nothing changed.
nobody payed for any kind of service.
customers like you encourage companies like nokia to drop products ASAP.
Originally Posted by H3llb0und
i feel the same. i'm still very tempted to go android. its not only about good hard- and software, its also about the support. and thats what we are missing. there is no use in the, theoretical, better OS that is maemo when its not polished and supported.
That would be sweet, and VERY smart if they did that. As it would keep most of us with Nokia and Meego.
I have been VERY tempted to go Android.
we are customers and we bought a product, not a SDK.
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2010-12-08
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Originally Posted by wmarone
Well, I didn't note that person who closed a bug is a bug reporter and can do it w/out Andre Klapper permission - and it is my error, I assumed it is some Nokia employee.
Can we change the topic of this to something more accurate, like "Person makes angry comment on bug tracker, closes bug."
I doubt it's too far from the truth but let's not go stuffing words in people's mouths.
But since that there are some valuable post (#10) from Instinctiv developer community about discouraging development on Maemo5 (see also the correspondent topic).
So, it seems a trend and I feel I should decline a topic change.
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Originally Posted by danramos
$550 actually, and it's served me well. I wouldn't give it up for any other phone on the market at this point, despite Nokia's poor behavior.
You paid $650 for your N900,. didn't you?
Not to say I wouldn't buy from anyone else, but I have no interest in buying into Android, Symbian, or any of the control freak OSes :/
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2010-12-08
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whats the problem. nokia have not done much for this device before. All the good stuff comes the community so who cares what nokia does. Get a beer and hack away...
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