From the time that I have had with the iPhone there are hardware items that I really miss such as notification lights hardware camera button on a cam on the 3gs is not that bad in actual use. Going to maemo I will appreciate the open from the start of the phone approach rather than be locked in... I plan on using both side by side as they really are separate devices catergories... From the apps that I have used I really like on my iPhone MLB At Bat. Tweetdeck which is phenomenal app even on my desktop... It these two simple apps that get the most use that I figure won't be available... There a lot of apps that I use that supplement goin to the real web that hopefully will be coded for maemo if not for 5 but harmattan 6... Nokia relationship with developers though with history of breaking code makes that unlikely... Thats a truth based on factual history... It's up to consumers to accept that... The devices are in different but everyone loves a new toy... Which the devices are in ways cuz they are above and beyond what most folk will need... It's just a want!

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Thanks.

I've always thought this to be an interesting point.
Nokia always promoted the N800/810 as a "pocketable" device....("the internet all the time" it says, as the guy in the first N800 promotional video slips the device into the inside pocket of a sports jacket.) IMO, it was one of the main features that distinguished the Nokia Internet Tablet from almost all of the other UMPCs, the mids, the handheld tablets, etc.
OK, the NITs were obviously just a bit too large for many pockets, (as evidenced in this thread), but they're very close. And at the same time, they can fit comfortably into some pockets (jackets, cargo pants, etc.) They don't always need a separate case and/or bag.
Now I receive RSS feeds to about 100 tech related sites which I scan almost daily. I also listen and/or watch a dozen or so of the best tech podcasts weekly. My eyes and ears have always perked up whenever the NITs were mentioned. (For instance Chris DeBona, the open source manager at Google, once made an offhand comment on Cranky Geeks that he thought the NIT was "a very solid device.")
But I've never once saw or heard this pocket-ability factor emphasized or even mentioned by any reviewer, blogger, tech journalist, podcaster, analyst, etc. The NIT was always just lumped together in the category as a tablet device or an Ultra Mobile. This topic of the device size has been mentioned frequently recently as the supposed Apple Tablet has been generating a lot of talk surrounding the category......and the NIT is often mentioned as an example of a "tablet that failed."
So I find it interesting that that N900 has been shrunk to comfortably fit the hand and pocket. Now it definitely fits into the pocketable smartphone size category....albeit, a rather thick one.
And at the same time, new devices from HTC, LG and Samsung are inching up bigger and bigger.
I'm just saying, it's kind of interesting.....

Kenny, I think the size thing is mostly related to the phone aspect. As an NIT only, the size could've been larger, in my opinion. But I wouldn't carry it everywhere, unlike the N900, which is the most powerful device of its size I've run across.

I, too find it funny that only now are more people trying the web tablet game on for size. Fortunately, I think the falling desktop sales will be found in the tablet/netbook genre, so room still exists.

What is shocking is Schneider said Maemo wouldn't go beyond 4-5" screens. Does this spell doom for those wanting a 7" Maemo NIT? Or will Moblin fill the void, as Reuters has alluded?

Apple may have action, but Samsung doesn't have a vertical solution compatible with its other OSes, and Android will probably limit some developers in the netbook/NIT category, where expectations are greater. We'll see in the next 8-10 quarters what the consumers want.

I'll take some of the blame. I worked too many hours yesterday, almost 25 straight. Was being a defensive and brutish jerk. I'm a little embarrassed myself. All apologies, folks. I'm fresh and friendly today. Anyone want a hug?

whoever sanitized the embarrassing posts, thanx, btw.

Just a small update:

According to this video

http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=304

The guy says that the n900 automatically switches from 3G to wifi if it detects any saved wifi networks in the vicinity. Is this feature already there on the iphone? Does it happen automatically?

Another feature which was great to hear was the guy showing off the n900 mentioned that he could download a torrent using transmission within 10 minutes and then play that 2000kbps video without any conversion. I bet the iphone does not support many of the codecs... is that right?

@sachin: yes, wifi takes higher priority than 3G when both are on. wifi can be can be set to always scan for available access points (and prompts you) when the preferred access points are not available.

According to this post from Matkapuhelininfo.
- Yes it does switch from 3G to Wlan and back automatically if you allow it to.

Thanks Ysss. But do you activate that feature or do you generally switch of wifi and use it only when you want to use it?

And from what the guy said i assume that there wont be any prompting just change in connection automatically... is this how it is on the iphone or do we have to manually respond to the prompts?

Thanks