hi everybody,

and yes, i got mine from some hours now,
and i must tell you, i´m happy...

my first impressions are good, to very good....

some good surprises comes from a lot of things,
from hardware first, and from the new OS...

actually using it to write this message, with a brand new
nokia keyboard, and everything works perfectly out of the box.

i will give you some impressions here,
will try to answer questions, and give some comparations
with my old 770...

well, i´m really happy, and i must say :

IT IS MORE BEAUTYFULL THAN PHOTOS...

of course there was some very good ones,
but the impression when you´ve got it in hands is really nice.

ok,

i leave because i want to enjoy and set some parameters to it,
and try to restaure some account to use it...

ah

second imression :
it´s so fast compared to 770...
yeah, really fast.


see ya

renaud.

Congratulations,

my key question? Has the Opera 8 a real javavm : try to access
http://www.netdania.com/ChartApplet.asp please.

thanks in advance-----subsecond

Loaded perfectly for me. But java? That's an active server page...

is the screen really better compared to the 770? no moire?

will get mine tomorrow, hopefully

Edit:
does the 'stand'-thing have some kind of rubber on it to prevent the device from sliding away when touching around the screen?

subsecond: there's no Java applet support on any Maemo device at the moment (although there was a comment somewhere saying they'd got applets working in Minimo with aleksandyr's JamVM/Classpath port)

Thanks,
unbelieveable. So I wait for the N850 in July 2007 and use an UMPC in between....subsecond

hi there,
i continue testing/enjoying my new gadget !

(i must say that i was sad this morning when i discovered Apple launches Iphone... but hey, it confirms that we need some products like this... after checking technicals spec, i was happy to discover that the 770/800 are still better with their big screen/resolution, i think adapted for real surfing...
some peoples argument with this : with iphone you have a tablet and a phone integrated... that's also what some people says yesterday when they discover my n800 at opening : the n800 (like the 770) is not a phone.
I'm happy with that ! with two things, you can surf while you are on phone with somebody, and need to watch something on the internet at the same time... i really use the 770 and now the n800 like a ultra small computer, and that's what it is !)

ok, i come back to my impressions when opening the n800 boxes...

First, i'm astonished because delivery was reallyy fast !
yes, i ordered it on monday, and it was delivered on thuesday ! (in approx. 24 hours !)
i ordered it from france, using the nokia direct store. it comes from
belgium, shipped by UPS.

WHOOAOO ! i never see a so fast delivery !
THANKS !


ok, let open the boxes (sorry no pictures of that...)
i get exactly what you can see on other photos published over the web by
some people... packaging, and presentation is good !

when i discover the n800, i was really impressed. it is more beautyfull than
what you can expect with pictures. i was thinking it is some retro-design
in some ways, but no. it's definitivelly nice and smart. it's fine, slim, thin...
proportions are good to my thoughts...

the n800 is a little bit larger than the n770, a a little less high.
the overall idea is an impression of a larger screen. this is accuentuated
by the light metal grey color of the face plate. all of this contribute
to magnify the screen presence. button are nicely integrated in the plate.
they are discreet.

the battery cover is really easy to open. and the n800 has an integrated
stand that is really nice, and very usable (how many time have i finded tips to block my 770 because i don't cary the stand with me.) now you can
set the n800 like you want... perhaps, i will be happy to pivot the
integrated support one or two clicks more, when i'm laying on
the bed

the stylus is nice also. a little bit bigger, that is nice. is has two colors,
black and chrome, that is very precious and business !
it blocks nice inside the tablet and i think it can't get out without
help. good. i will not miss my stylus in my pockets because it was no
correctly inserted (like some sony devices i owned..)
good feeling with it, better grip. the form is good also to really
take it like a stylus.

texture of material is good to.
i have a good feeling when in hands. everything seems strong, nothing seems
to moves. the weight/size ratio good to me...

it look like it a bit lighter than the 770 (good point here...)

let's talk about the buttons.
a lot of people says that this is point that the designers have not done
a good job... i don't think so.
i was affraid about the reduced size of the top button
(fullscreen, zoom in zoom out, and on/off buttons)
ok, here are my thoughs :
the button are more regrouped to the upper left tablet.
there is less space between them.
this is good because with the 770 you have sometimes to do
some gymnastics to push some buttons, compared to the n800.
here, i have a more soft feeling using it.

so, the top button are smaller, the order has changed... but i think it is
more natural using it, and i don't have to turn the tablet to check what
button i'm pressing. i can now more easely identify each button just
by touching it... good point to me... perhaps the button can be just a little
more larger to be more confortable.

ok,
the screen now.
i think it was upgraded !
better white impression (no rainbow effects like the 770)
better contrast, better blacks and white...
when i compare the 770 to the n800 there is big differences.
ok, the 770 screen is very good. but here things are better !
compared to the n800, my 770 is lightly yellow. the n800 is more white...
i have see some 770 with darker area on the screen (friends of mine one's)
the lighting on the n800 seems to be better : in uniformity, and in power...
yes, light seems to be more powerfull. (i wonder it will not drain the battery
too fast...)
the viewing angle is better too. in all directions... especially from up or down
viewing...

i used my 770 a lot... with stylus, with nails, with thumbs...
i feel like the n800 has a better touch screen. more strong,
more precise, and you need to give less pressure.

the webcam is really a fun feature. it is not a very good one,
because it need that the subject is in light. because when it lacks of light
you get grainy picture (video noise)
it is cool that the camera can be rotated (the picture is rotated at a certain
angle of rotation to be shower the right way (nice)
the camera pops up when you push it. when it pops out, the internet call application load and directly show what the camera is looking.
the video rate seems to be good. now i wonder how fast it streams pictures
over the net... i will test this very soon. and i'm happy to have something
really light in my pocket, to give video call to my familly when i'm
travelling... (hello childrens ! here's what i can see here ! )



and now, the power of the machine itself...
i must say yes ! it is more fast ! more snapier.
i think the more horsepower, the more ram, and the certainly optimised OS
and application turn this into a real confortable machine.
i used the 770 a lot for surfing the net, i think i will use the n800 more !

OS boot faster, things seems to display faster. sometime i feel some
things really pops ! nice !
applications that are inside loads fast.
web pages loads faster too. flash applications are also running faster.
not as fast as a computer (i know websites that i like i will continue to
use with a real PC) but it's better than the 770.
google docs and spreadsheets still doesn't load. it still don't reconise
the Opera browser. i will try to install minimo as soon as i have time.


ok,
this are my first impressions.
overall very positive i know, but this is what i really think.
i discovered a lot of new thing in the os, but this will be another
post...










here are some answer to some questions :
subsecond asks :
try to access http://www.netdania.com/ChartApplet.asp please.

answer : it loads, i can use it... but is this Java ?



die_allianz asks :
is the screen really better compared to the 770? no moire?


answer : yes, read upside, and you will discover why.
be assured this screen is very good !






see ya !

still happy ? yeah !

after all above, let's use what's in the box.
i already write it, i ordered the n800 with nokia's bluetooth keyboard.

at this moment, i remember how difficult it was for me (i'm not a so linux freak) to connect a keyboard on my 770... ok, i used a keyboard that isn't HID compliant. so using some tricks gives me the ability to use the keyboard.
but all keys aren't mapped, there's no easy way to do that...

i recommand using nokia's keyboard ! it works like a breeze.
first using the new control pannel to find the keyboard, type in the pin,
and that's it ! the keyboard is connected ! and when using it, non poping
onscreen keyboard, the keyboard is actually work every where very nice, i can control scrolling bars when surfing with arrows... yeah !

connecting my phone was easy too ! i just make it visible, and GO !
now i just have to set up the internet connection using my phone. i will
do it later, because i just don't need it at this moment



when configuring bluetooth things, i just discover the OS has evolved
a lot... first, the control panel in not just a folder with a lot of icons. now
they are grouped into classes (general, connectivity...) just more easy to find
the control panel you need...
i discovered that the top buttons (zoom in/out) have now fonctions
in the OS itself : for example, in control panel, pressing zoom buttons
give you ability to switch from small/big icons...

different control panels have new functions. like memory control panel
have control to manage the memory cards, or display control panel have
some new setup like a function to control the backlight of the rocker button.

also, the navigation control panel let you set up the application used for web or for contact. also you can setup icons in the top bar ! if you don't want to see some icons, or if you want to change their order ! cool...



that's all for today. i have some things to do in real life

see ya, and hope to get maemo mapper soon !

rjungmann:

Many thanks for your hands-on review of the N800 and comparison with the 770. I've been eagerly reading every story and review of the N800 since the first leak on Saturday morning -- I think yours must be the most comprehensive review so far.

A few questions for you (I don't own a 770 ... I've been waiting for the successor model ... so some of these questions may be very basic):

1. You mention the N800 "still doesn't recognize the Opera browser" -- but I thought the N800 came with Opera pre-installed by Nokia. Could you expain what you mean by this.

2. With the N800, can you:

- a. Use the BT keyboard and the BT connection to your cell phone simultaneously ?

- b. Use the BT keyboard and the WiFi to access the Internet simultaneously ? (In the FCC license application documents filed by Nokia for the N800 in November, there was some wording that BT and WiFi transmissions were mutually exclusive, implying that you might not be able to use the BT KB and WiFi at the same time).

Once again, many thanks.

My N800 arrived today, and after a quick spin my reaction is positive - feels much snappier, better screen, better audio, and the shape of the N800 is more comfortable to hold (my fingers rest nicely below the curve of the web cam providing extra support). Build quality is good.

I do prefer the old button layout on the top, the new buttons are a little on the small side and since there is no case to automatically lock the screen you now need to do this with the on/off button, which is recessed and tiny. Not very clever. The on/off button is a bit fiddly, but no doubt I'll train the appropriate digits so that they can press it more effectively in future.