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RogerS
2007-11-01, 21:47
Shortly after the first internet tablet was announced but months before it was released, Nokia indicated that language support would not extend (http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3457&postcount=3) to Asian languges for space reasons. The OS needed to be trimmer.

That decision was perfectly understandable.

I'm sure many users will cheer the arrival of CJK capability (http://maemocjk.garage.maemo.org/). Anyway, the speakers of Chinese, Japanese and Korean.

As it happens, the language I personally am most interested in is Khmer (Cambodian). There aren't a lot of people who speak Khmer and probably the market for internet tablets in Cambodia is too small to be bothered with.

That's probably true of a hundred other languages, however.

While I'd like to be able to use my NIT to do everything any Linux computer can do, again I see the logic that that's not really one of the essential design goals of the internet tablets.

But being able to display most any web page is.

And if there are huge swaths of Unicode that can't be displayed on an internet tablet screen, that's a big asterisk that needs to be placed next to "internet" in the device name, with a footnote specifying "except in countries lacking Western or Chinese-ideograph-based scripts."

Unicode, internationalization, combining and displaying characters in complex scripts like Khmer (in which sometimes letters stack and the order the letters display isn't always the order in which they're keyed) or Indic languages -- this isn't really optional if one is making a device to display pages on the internet. It's required. IMO.

Nokia now sells several phones (http://www.khmeros.info/drupal/?q=en/node/2058) that have a Khmer interface (http://www.khmeros.info/drupal/?q=en/node/1891), including Khmer Unicode input. (And 17 other Asian languages.)

If it can be squeezed into a phone, I think it'll fit into an internet tablet.Read the full article. (http://www.internettablettalk.com/2007/11/01/the-internet-is-worldwide-2/)

Karel Jansens
2007-11-01, 23:32
As it happens, the language I personally am most interested in is Khmer (Cambodian). There aren't a lot of people who speak Khmer and probably the market for internet tablets in Cambodia is too small to be bothered with.


There are quite a lot of people in Thailand who speak Khmer...

R-R
2007-11-02, 05:52
http://gjiten.garage.maemo.org/

Check out this, coupled with CJK support... i'm just wondering how to fit almost 100MB more on my N800 though... (without formating a card to ext2 and booting from it :|)

baeksu
2007-11-02, 06:00
Unicode support should be a basic requirement these days. Even if the device is not sold in non-extended-latin-alphabet markets, there are a lot of people who use or want to learn new non-western languages, too.

(btw, hi everyone, new to the board here [~waves hands~])

Here in Korea, there are no Nokias, but I'm having an N800 sent to me from Finland. It will arouse some interest where I work, I expect.

I'm guessing CJK support does not yet include hand writing recognition, though?

maxilogan
2007-11-02, 08:19
I'm guessing CJK support does not yet include hand writing recognition, though?

Speaking of functionality, nor OS200x includes HWR at all :rolleyes:

Kozzi
2007-11-02, 09:20
Any idea if Vietnamese characters will show up correctly ?
for example, this page (http://vnexpress.net/Vietnam/Khoa-hoc/2007/11/3B9FBE6C/) will display like the picture below:

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7792/19790640yu2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7792/19790640yu2.26cc0248d2.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=528&i=19790640yu2.jpg)

kingka
2007-11-02, 13:32
Unicode support should be a basic requirement these days. Even if the device is not sold in non-extended-latin-alphabet markets, there are a lot of people who use or want to learn new non-western languages, too.

(btw, hi everyone, new to the board here [~waves hands~])

Here in Korea, there are no Nokias, but I'm having an N800 sent to me from Finland. It will arouse some interest where I work, I expect.

I'm guessing CJK support does not yet include hand writing recognition, though?


hey whats up? are you really a baeksu? hehe I guess you'll have alot of freetime to play around with the n810 then. and yea CKJ support should be pretty standard. but I guess there is a language update for the n810. so it should be fine. where in korea are you?

benny1967
2007-11-02, 14:02
this is, btw, a drawback of the new hardware keyboard: its only available in English, German, French, Italian, Spanish-Portuguese, Scandinavian and Russian, and I dont see any chance to upgrade it via .install-files ;)

baeksu
2007-11-05, 23:44
hey whats up? are you really a baeksu? hehe I guess you'll have alot of freetime to play around with the n810 then. and yea CKJ support should be pretty standard. but I guess there is a language update for the n810. so it should be fine. where in korea are you?
I was baeksu, but now I spend my days as a wage slave remembering those happy days (baeksu is Korean slang for an unemployed slacker).

I live in Suwon, work in Anyang. How about you?

jamesc760
2008-03-14, 17:22
Another Korean here, although I'm in San Diego and technically Korean-American with emphasis on American (left Korea when I was 13, a looooong time ago). I love this board and my N800. Best electronic gadget I ever bought!

debudebu
2008-03-21, 17:00
does anyone know if cjk support is planned for future firmware virsions? i'd like to type japanese on my n800, but i don't like the idea of no hildon keyboard. so far i've been using websites such as this to enter japanese. it's pretty tedious.
http://sumibi.org/?long=1

dan
2008-03-22, 08:37
I asked the guys who worked on cjk if they were planning to add other languages and they said no.
I travel a lot and it would be nice to be able to input in local language.
Maybe if enough of us ask they will start adding a lot more languages. It's a great little keyboard for the three non- english languages it supports. Maybe someone here can help them compile the code necessary. Dan