Nokia Releses OS2008 Beta for the Nokia N800 Internet Tablet

[EIPI]

Just spotted this on the N800 OS download site:

I didn't see this on ITT yet, so thought I would point it out!

http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N800.php

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RX-34_2008SE_1.2007.44-4_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin

Software Edition 2008 version 4.2007.44-4 for Nokia N800

The first IT OS 2008 release for Nokia N800

[rok]

Nice find!

:-)

[ShyBoy]

Did you flash through the linux flasher? or use the windows update utility?

[EIPI]

I have not done it myself yet since I am away from my house. I would think that the Windows utility would work since this is an officially released OS for the N800.

[EIPI]

Anyone upgraded using this firmware yet? If so, please provide some feedback on the update process, and impressions versus the leaked N810 OS.

[ShyBoy]

yes, you are right, but I also noticed that the windows update utility on nokia's website
http://europe.nokia.com/A4305010
it has different size of the file which I use to have for the update utility that I downloaded couple of months ago.

So I guess that this is the update utility as well in addition to the OS2008.

...

[YoDude]

I'm d'loading now from http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N800.php

It takes the N800's correct MAC addy now. WhooHoo!

[evanjfraser]

I'm d'loading now from http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N800.php


Me too... Stop hogging my bandwidth! :)

[YoDude]

Me too... Stop hogging my bandwidth! :)


It's sl-o-o-o-w.... I'm only @ 42%

[Texrat]

Deleted my other message... my bleary eyes misread the file name...lol.

[jmancine]

Anyone know if this is really an n800 specific release or just a repackaged 810 firmware?

Aw heck, it doesn't really matter...I'm going to try it anyway. :)

[evanjfraser]

Ok...
At the end of the flash, I got this:

100% (128256 of 128256 kB, avg. 5770 kB/s)
Finishing flashing... done
Sending request 0x43 failed!

Bootloader error log follows:
Error reading spare of block 247, page 0
Error reading spare of block 247, page 0
EP0 in RX state, but no incoming packet
Premature end of control transfer

But after repowering it It booted up into OS2008. Everything seems wonderful so far (in the 30s of testing i've given it) except in the "About Product" it still claims that Im using OS2007 Ver: 4.2007.38-2

Weird! Anyone have any ideas what went wrong?

[imrahil]

I'm stuck on 12% ! Grrr...

[rok]

Still no FM-Radio applet. :-|

I've got the feeling, that the screen responsiveness is now similar to the old ITOS2007.

(flashed with the windows update utility)

[rok]

Uaaaah ... Skype is back, but i can't install it!
I have to install the latest N810 software version????

[N770-Freak]

Ok...
At the end of the flash, I got this:

100% (128256 of 128256 kB, avg. 5770 kB/s)
Finishing flashing... done
Sending request 0x43 failed!

Bootloader error log follows:
Error reading spare of block 247, page 0
Error reading spare of block 247, page 0
EP0 in RX state, but no incoming packet
Premature end of control transfer

But after repowering it It booted up into OS2008. Everything seems wonderful so far (in the 30s of testing i've given it) except in the "About Product" it still claims that Im using OS2007 Ver: 4.2007.38-2

Weird! Anyone have any ideas what went wrong?

I didn't get an error! And "About Product" shows OS2008!!!
Perhaps you should flash your N800 again!

[YoDude]

Yup, Installed fine. Nothing new over the unofficial installation, no FM radio etc.

I'm going to run the back-up I made from the unofficial OS and see if anything explodes or suttin'

[evanjfraser]

I didn't get an error! And "About Product" shows OS2008!!!
Perhaps you should flash your N800 again!

Yep, I reflashed and I didn't get the error this time, thanks for the feedback :)

[TA-t3]

lol, I was actually visiting that page earlier today just to verify a link, and I'm certain it wasn't there then! Must have just missed it.. I'm downloading, but holding back a little with the installation. Want to hear about any problems you guys have first! ;)

[dormant]

I've downloaded, but should really wait until some more apps are available - maemo-mapper for one.

Let's see if I can.

[evanjfraser]

I've downloaded, but should really wait until some more apps are available - maemo-mapper for one.


I'm pretty sure maemo-mapper installs, v2.1 was released today btw. (check it out in garage.maemo.org)

Evan.

[YoDude]

Yup, Installed fine. Nothing new over the unofficial installation, no FM radio etc.

I'm going to run the back-up I made from the unofficial OS and see if anything explodes or suttin'


Nope, nothing explodes (takes helmet made from armadillo off)...

Back-up went well but what it really needs is a "No to all" button when it asks if you want to replace existing files with newer versions. Without it you have to answer the pop-up for every bookmark or favorite that you changed in your old set-up.

...oh and full map services are still expected in December and are not yet available.

[dormant]

Did anyone read the announcement? (http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/os2008beta_for_n800.html)

This is only a Beta. Final is now mid-December.

[evanjfraser]

...oh and full map services are still expected in December and are not yet available.

Yep, I really really want to be able to upgrade my navicore license already!

[mredeker]

Does anybody know, if the dual boot is possible with OS2008? It would be nice to have the "old" and "new" OS available.

[fpp]

Did anyone read the announcement? (http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/os2008beta_for_n800.html)

This is only a Beta. Final is now mid-December.

Also this comment by Quim Gil in there :

"N810 maemo contributor codes
Published by Quim Gil on 11/26/07 15:41:46.
btw the estimation is to have the 500 N810 maemo contributor codes available in the online Nokia shops by December 15th."

Merry Xmas ! :-)

[Rebski]

Did anyone read the announcement?

This is only a Beta. Final is now mid-December.

Thanks for posting that. If it is only Beta then I might leave well alone the N810 2008OS v -18. Pending feedback of course.

[GoodJonx]

Pretty cool, has anyine tried playing the downloaded file (RX-34_2008SE_1.2007.44-4_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin) with the VLC media player? I did by accident, I guess there's a new song bundled with the OS? Funny..

[flareup]

"The OS2008 final release for the N800 is expected to come on mid December. It will include several improvements based on N800 specific testing and the earliest feedback received from the usage of the N810 in real circumstances."

os08 for 800 was to be with the release of the n810, then a week later than it, then december, now mid december.

better get the beta i guess.

the software side of he NITs really does seem to let the whole thing down release/timing wise.

Anyone know when skype will be available for it? like quite a few 800 users, it's a big part of the use and appeal of the device for me now.

[keithlm]

yes, you are right, but I also noticed that the windows update utility on nokia's website
http://europe.nokia.com/A4305010
it has different size of the file which I use to have for the update utility that I downloaded couple of months ago.

So I guess that this is the update utility as well in addition to the OS2008.

...

It now lists Vista as a client OS for the flasher... very nice.

(Although my new laptop has both Vista and Linux on it...)

[qgil]

(...) and impressions versus the leaked N810 OS.

What you (and others) call "leaked" is in fact an official N810 image clever people found out how to install contra natura in the N800. What Nokia has released today is an official beta with all the ingredients developers need to make proper Chinook releases and test them in a real, supported combination.

For me the choice is clear.

[zerojay]

"The OS2008 final release for the N800 is expected to come on mid December. It will include several improvements based on N800 specific testing and the earliest feedback received from the usage of the N810 in real circumstances."

os08 for 800 was to be with the release of the n810, then a week later than it, then december, now mid december.

better get the beta i guess.

the software side of he NITs really does seem to let the whole thing down release/timing wise.

Anyone know when skype will be available for it? like quite a few 800 users, it's a big part of the use and appeal of the device for me now.

You'll have to ask Skype about that. I'm pretty sure they're in final QA on it at this point.

[Reggie]

Nokia has decided to release a beta version of OS2008 for the Nokia N800 Internet Tablet. This release intends to help developers port and test their applications' performance and readiness for OS2008. The Navkit is for the OS2008 beta is disabled however. The release version of OS2008 should be available by mid-December. The lucky 500 contributors who received their Nokia N810 discount codes should be able to use them by December 15. Download the OS2008 beta firmware. Read Maemo.org's announcement.Read the full article. (http://www.internettablettalk.com/2007/11/26/nokia-releses-os2008-beta-for-the-nokia-n800-internet-tablet/)

[omegaone37]

Has anyone tried to install from a Mac? If so, does Aflegg's GUI installer work?

Regards,

Omega

Update: I have successfully installed the new OS using Aflegg's GUI installer! And everything seems to be just fine and dandy! :D

[kyyla]

Skype seems to be available, at least on the unofficial N810 firmware.

[ShyBoy]

It now lists Vista as a client OS for the flasher... very nice.

(Although my new laptop has both Vista and Linux on it...)

Well the earlier windows update utility was also working under Vista (in-fact I had it installed with no problem).

[zerojay]

Skype seems to be available, at least on the unofficial N810 firmware.

No, not yet. The icon is there, but the installer tells you it's not ready yet.

EDIT: My bad.. it works now.

[ranasing]

Got it installed and it looks great. Just started playing with it now. Could not get Skype to install though.

[kyyla]

No, not yet. The icon is there, but the installer tells you it's not ready yet.

Nope I just installed it. Works just fine.

[steelbutt]

Could you please elaborate on how you managed to install skype? I keep getting an error message saying I should update my OS on the N810. I'm using the latest officially available Version of OS 2008 on my N800.

Thanks, SB

[kyyla]

Can someone confim that it works with the new N800 firmware so that i can switch.

[kyyla]

Could you please elaborate on how you managed to install skype? I keep getting an error message saying I should update my OS on the N810. I'm using the latest officially available Version of OS 2008 on my N800.

Thanks, SB
I'm using the N810 firmware. Maybe that's why?

[steelbutt]

Ouch. I just flashed to the N800 release - last night the N810 firmware wouldn't let me install Skype. Oh well...

SB

[frethop]

Does anybody know, if the dual boot is possible with OS2008? It would be nice to have the "old" and "new" OS available.

Yes...it is possible. I'm booting my N800 with OS2008 in flash on OS2007 on my memory card. I did not do anything different (I previously was dual booted). I just loaded OS2008 into flash memory.

[kyyla]

Ouch. I just flashed to the N800 release - last night the N810 firmware wouldn't let me install Skype. Oh well...

SB
Well that sucks. I hope they'll release a N800 version soon. Really there shouldn't be any difference. Since the N810 OS works fine looks like I'll be updating my OS2008 next time in december.

[mredeker]

Yes...it is possible. I'm booting my N800 with OS2008 in flash on OS2007 on my memory card. I did not do anything different (I previously was dual booted). I just loaded OS2008 into flash memory.

Thanks! Did you have to flash the dual boot menu again after flashing the OS2008 or was that menu when turning on the device still there?

[frethop]

I'm using the N810 firmware. Maybe that's why?

You need the latest OS 2008 firmware. I have RX-44_2008SE_1.2007.42-18_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin and I need RX-44_2008SE_1.2007.42-19_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin to install Skype. At least that's what the installer told me.

[Benson]

W00T!!!!!!111!!1
December comes early! Hallelujah!

But I think Nokia released it.

[anidel]

Looks like skype checks for a N810 device regardless of what OS version you have installed.
It wants an N810 with the latest firmware on it.

Hope it's just a mistake.

[hns]

Yes...it is possible. I'm booting my N800 with OS2008 in flash on OS2007 on my memory card. I did not do anything different (I previously was dual booted). I just loaded OS2008 into flash memory.

Are you sure wlan is working under OS2007 in your setup? Last time I tried, it didn't because of firmware incompatibility between the OS2007 and OS2008 kernels, which is why I went back to OS2007.

From this posting by fanoush, it doesn't look like anything has changed in this regard:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=95765#post95765

[iancumihai]

I have I have a N800 with RX-44_2008SE_1.2007.42-18_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin and Skype works now (shouldn't it have video?)

[cybergypsy]

gmail still isn't working for me , same problem - it collects the headers but not the body.

anyone got gmail working with IMAP ?

[anidel]

gmail still isn't working for me , same problem - it collects the headers but not the body.

anyone got gmail working with IMAP ?

Same problem here.
IMAP work with my university's IMAP server, but not with the gmail one.
Only headers.
Didn't find a workaround yet...

[maxilogan]

Thanks! Did you have to flash the dual boot menu again after flashing the OS2008 or was that menu when turning on the device still there?

No, you have to flash fanoush's initfs_flash OS2008 version, but that's nothing impossible :)

http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/initfs_flasher.tgz

[Greyghost]

For me the choice is clear.
Thanks Quim for the info. Your efforts to run this release smoothly for users and developers alike in spite of our relentless searching and hacking have been admirable. I for one, am grateful that the new firmware won't punish me for my eagerness:)

[anidel]

Moreover, Eero Tamminen just stated on the mailing list that:

It doesn't have additional features. It's just had more testing,
especially on N800 and many bugs are fixed (as reads in the
announcement).

when asked:

Any chance you can outline the differences between N800 and N810 software releases? IE USB host mode BT etc etc.

[XL1200c]

This is very tempting, but I would need Skype and FM radio to be available before I upgrade.

[anidel]

What I don't like so far is that the two devices, are already starting to be different software-wise.
Skype won't install on the N800 with OS2008 and, from what I read in the Eero's statement, it has more bug fixes than Os2008 on the N810:

The N810 one is the 42-18, while the N800 one is 44-4.

I think it's just because we are in the early phases of the born of the OS2008.
And the two versions will be in more sync as the N810 will be definitely available worldwide.

Let's see.

[frethop]

Are you sure wlan is working under OS2007 in your setup? Last time I tried, it didn't because of firmware incompatibility between the OS2007 and OS2008 kernels, which is why I went back to OS2007.

From this posting by fanoush, it doesn't look like anything has changed in this regard:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=95765#post95765

Oops. Thanks hns; you are right. I did not check my WLAN. It's not working.

[Alvin]

pretty slow download....
only at 11%
I started downloading and then read the 59 posts in here...

[Khertan]

42-18, while the N800 one is 44-4


It's 42-19 :)


Does 42 and 44 isn't the week number of the compilation of the firmware ?

[jmancine]

The Skype thing is annoying, but it will be here soon.

One big plus I've noted in the beta release is that several bugs in the keyboard and text entry have been fixed. Most notable is the bug that closed the on screen keyboard when a block of text was selected. THAT was annoying!

[Khertan]

is that several bugs in the keyboard and text entry have been fixed.

Great news

[anidel]

It's 42-19 :) Does 42 and 44 isn't the week number of the compilation of the firmware ?

You're right, 42-19 , I've forgotten the last update :)

No idea about the week thing...
We are now in the 48th week of the year... 4 weeks before releasing a beta ?

Don't know...

[Khertan]

For example the first os version of the n800 was the "Software Edition 2007 version 2.2006.51-6"

As it was available at the start of the new year ;)

[sw01]

The reason Skype won't install -

if test $REL1 -lt 1 -o $REL2 -lt 2007 -o $REL31 -lt 42 -o $REL32 -lt 19; then
blah blah blah
exit 1
fi

in preinst

i.e. 44 is NOT less than 42 but 4 IS less than 19

[anidel]

Stupid check.. how can we remove it ?

[Khertan]

extract the content of the .deb modify it and reconstruct the .deb ;)

[soypunk]

I installed the n800 IT 2008 beta and I'm able to install Skype from the application manager without any problems. (downloaded, installed, started it... used it... works fine.)

[kyyla]

I installed the n800 IT 2008 beta and I'm able to install Skype from the application manager without any problems. (downloaded, installed, started it... used it... works fine.)
Maybe they quick fixed the deb.

[kyyla]

Ok now that skype is available I'd love to update to 44.4 for the bugfixes but I can't download the damn thing.

[zerojay]

Doesn't look like it. I've got the same error.

[IBICO]

WOW.. Great with OS08 :-D.. I love it.. Mahjong is there and working so I am good so far :-p..
Now just have to find some other programs to try.. now it say I could install whopping 4 apps.. hehe

[Alvin]

Ok now that skype is available I'd love to update to 44.4 for the bugfixes but I can't download the damn thing.

me neither :(

I got to 72% and then it died. Now it won't start again!

[IBICO]

the best feature I have found is light setting where I could have it lit all the time when charging :) I missed that one.. but.. It seems like there is fewer light settings on os08 then os07? I have five different light levels on os08 but I thought it was more in os07??

[jmancine]

More great news...my motorola ht350 bluetooth headset works flawlessly and I can hear sound. Now if Skype would just install!

[omegaone37]

For those who need their VoIP fix, Gizmo Project (with vid) loads and works with the 2008OS on the N800's.

Regards,

Omega

[Matyas]

Skype with working in my N800 flashed with a N810 image...I still have to check the audio chat.

[convulted]

More great news...my motorola ht350 bluetooth headset works flawlessly and I can hear sound. Now if Skype would just install!

Is that a mono headset or not?

[jmancine]

yes, just a mono headset for voip use..

[dblank]

Anyone have a mirror? :D

I wonder what the problem is.. surely it's not just us N800 users clogging up the pipes!

[convulted]

Perfect :D Thanks!

[jmancine]

soypunk, can you check your OS version in Control Panel/About so we can figure out how skype works for you?

[RipTorn]

Yes, downloading now... Disgustingly slow :p im sitting at about 4Kb/s

Was hoping to install it before I crash (its about 4am) but I'll wait till tomorrow if the download doesn't stop again. 8Hours 40min remaining *weeps*


-Rip

[jmancine]

Strange...the aforementioned text selection bug still exists if you select a block of text from the end of a sentence/paragraph (right to left), but not if you select left to right. We're halfway there, I guess!! ;)

I'll see about updating this at bugzilla.

[Robchoc]

RipTorn, read your PM ;-)

Rob

[JoeBrooks]

If anyone is sharing a mirror version of the .bin file I would love to use it too!

My download gets stalled at 13% then the connection times out.

[soypunk]

soypunk, can you check your OS version in Control Panel/About so we can figure out how skype works for you?

Hrm, it just says <unknown>.

I flashed it this morning with this image from my Ubuntu laptop:
RX-34_2008SE_1.2007.44-4_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin

[jmancine]

very strange, indeed. How about skype? Can you check the version # in application manager/installed apps?

[evanjfraser]

check your pm joebrooks

[soypunk]

very strange, indeed. How about skype? Can you check the version # in application manager/installed apps?

On boot in rd mode it appears to have been flashed correctly as the right version numbers show up there...

Skype version 10017/1.7.62.48.2

[JoeBrooks]

check your pm joebrooks

*not worthy*

Thanks :)

*reverts to lurker*

[mfresh]

Can't get it either at the moment. If anyone can help me out in a PM they'll have a friend for life and a free pint waiting for them if they are ever near High Wycombe....

[Robchoc]

For anyone who wants it, only allows one download at a time as I have to use my computer too.

https://secure.logmein.com/f?lvgkjXxN8PwkdGc3nzVhuRQB-zYTdbtd3A-yI2JTbLW

Oh, and Thanks wouldn't go amiss. :D

Rob

[jmancine]

Well, those are the new versions...Does anyone else have skype running with this new os? There's a thread about it working on the 810, but we're getting mixed signals on the 800.

[Robchoc]

Can someone just confirm the size of the bin file reported on a windows machine.

Rob

[JeffElkins]

The download is still painfully,painfully slow....

[imrahil]

Can someone just confirm the size of the bin file reported on a windows machine.

Rob
my download manager said that your file has 74MB
oryginal firmware has 130mb... but i'm stuck at 25%! grrr

[astuermer]

Hmm, got 81%... but damn slow.
Can't wait for flashing it ;)

[phi]

if nokia/maemo only heard of this thing called bittorrent...

[jwhelan]

Hey, could you all stop d/ling for a minute I'm only getting 4k/s

lol

[sjgadsby]

if nokia/maemo only heard of this thing called bittorrent...

Shh! That's blocked at my work.

[Munk]

I was just checking if there were any torrents available for this thing. The download speed started at 16KB and has dropped down to 11KB over the last 2 HOURS!!! Now, there's just about an hour of time left before it is complete.

Hopefully this sends a strong message to Nokia that people actually want and keep up with what's going on in the NIT world.

[evanjfraser]

I've just created a torrent here:

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3910524

I hope that works!

[ferjant]

darn can't wait still at work. anyone can upload the new OS at rapidshare or megaupload? thanks evan for the torrent, that will be my 2nd option.

[El Amir]

anyone can upload the new OS at rapidshare or megaupload?
smart guy!!!
someone please?
that would be a good idea... no?

[Sentinel1705]

It's sl-o-o-o-w.... I'm only @ 42%

A line capable of downloading @ 300+KB/S is downloading at 7KB/S

Wow. just. Wow. People are really flooding their download servers.

[Sentinel1705]

I've just created a torrent here:

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3910524

I hope that works!

Downloading and reseeding. For this I will leave azureus open 24/7 to help the flood. I'm only 784 up bit every lil bit helps.

[LosOutlandos]

thanks for the torrent, it's running @300kb/sec!
PS: seeding is caring :)

[Mara]

I've just created a torrent here:

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3910524

I hope that works!

I already have the file... but just to help you out I'm in with this torrent. Put my 2Mbit upload speed into use... :D

[LosOutlandos]

btw: is linux still required for patching or does the normal windows updater work?
EDIT: nevermind, patching using windows works fine

[asinus]

I've just created a torrent here:

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3910524

I hope that works!

Thank you so much! Got it in 15 mins, seeding now with 800kB/s.

[imrahil]

Thank you so much! Got it in 15 mins, seeding now with 800kB/s.

torrent rocks! 10 new seeders in 10 minutes :D

[jwhelan]

seeding for a bit as well

[mardibloke]

came down real quick

seeding for rest of night

[JeffElkins]

Thank you so much! Got it in 15 mins, seeding now with 800kB/s.

Same here, about 15 minutes. Seeding all night :)

(I'm off to work)

[rok]

May my seed be with you! :)

[convulted]

Same here :D

[technut]

That torrent rocks! Thanks so much! I'll seed it too.

[Mara]

Looks like there is now more seeders than downloaders... :)

[fpp]

I was going to help seed that thing even if I don't plan to install it myself (I'll wait for a non-beta release with more apps)... but I can't seem to connect to that tracker :-(

I'll leave it trying overnight, we'll see...

[lumindigo85]

Hm... how can I set up an username and a password for the Windows / Samba shares?

[Moonshine]

Hm... how can I set up an username and a password for the Windows / Samba shares?

If you're talking about browsing user/password protected shares from OS2008's File Manager, you can't. :(

http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11836&highlight=smb

[sondjata]

Joining In and seeding.

[ShyBoy]

i installed ssh and now x-term is not letting me logon.
see the error below:


$ ssh root@127.0.0.1
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@
@ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!
Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)!
It is also possible that the RSA host key has just been changed.
The fingerprint for the RSA key sent by the remote host is
13:d1:29:26:0e:f0:c4:f0:89:b8:a3:02:b1:2c:80:6f.
Please contact your system administrator.
Add correct host key in /home/user/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message.
Offending key in /home/user/.ssh/known_hosts:1
RSA host key for 127.0.0.1 has changed and you have requested strict checking.
Host key verification failed.
~ $


can someone confirm the same behavior?

[Nik1]

I'll stick with the leaked n810 firmware untill full ver for n800 is released in December. The only bugs I see are with the RSS Reader closing right when opened and bluetooth connection timeouts.

[GeneralAntilles]

Looks like there is now more seeders than downloaders... :)

We're a giving bunch. :)

[Moonshine]

i installed ssh and now x-term is not letting me logon.
see the error below:


$ ssh root@127.0.0.1
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@
@ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!
Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)!
It is also possible that the RSA host key has just been changed.
The fingerprint for the RSA key sent by the remote host is
13:d1:29:26:0e:f0:c4:f0:89:b8:a3:02:b1:2c:80:6f.
Please contact your system administrator.
Add correct host key in /home/user/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message.
Offending key in /home/user/.ssh/known_hosts:1
RSA host key for 127.0.0.1 has changed and you have requested strict checking.
Host key verification failed.
~ $


can someone help?

When you first install SSH (server) it creates a new private key for the server. So if this is a new (2nd) install of SSH for some reason, then you can just follow the instructions and delete the first line (line 1)in /home/user/.ssh/known_hosts.

But really you probably don't need to be ssh'ing to the root account on localhost? If you just want to become root, the the "becomeroot" package is probably what you're after and works on OS2008. (Which is the only thing relevant to this thread :D)

[blakboy98]

So, to confirm. Is Skype installable on the beta os08 and is bluetooth headset working (not just with kagu) as well?

[piku]

i installed ssh and now x-term is not letting me logon.
see the error below:


$ ssh root@127.0.0.1
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@
@ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@
can someone confirm the same behavior?

This is a standard SSH message warning you that the computer you're connecting to is different to the last time you connected. Since you're connecting to your N800 that's to be expected since you just flashed new firmware into it.

Just delete the known_hosts file and all will be well.

Then run "passwd" as root and change your root password. It's a bit insecure having "rootme" as the password.

[deeteroderdas]

Joining In and seeding.

I had started downloading it this morning (getting a miraculous 33K/s :D). The download was done by the time I got home from work, so I've joined the torrent "collective". I'll leave it up indef.

[Benson]

I had it downloading while I went off to an exam, and it's finally done -- 3+ hours, 4.6 KB/s at the end.
Now, I need to save off the list of my repositories, and the list of packages I have installed. Not sure what all else, so I'd welcome any tips.
Maybe by tomorrow evening I'll have taken the plunge and ditched ITOS2007. (I'm too lazy to set up dual-booting, after I've heard the WLAN stops working in ITOS2007 anyway, hence my caution.)

[Sentinel1705]

So, to confirm. Is Skype installable on the beta os08 and is bluetooth headset working (not just with kagu) as well?

No skype here.
Beta OS2008, restored backup files, skype asks for N810 hardware.

No sirius radio either for that matter. Correct credentials but web browser says otherwise. And yes I did try various suggestions from this post (http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12237) regarding mozilla and passwords.

[mredeker]

Then run "passwd" as root and change your root password. It's a bit insecure having "rootme" as the password.

How do you get root access in the first place? I am able to ssh root@localhost but the "rootme" password does not work. Do you know the OS2008 root password?

[Jupex]

Doesn't skype install affter restore? WTF with that :D

[iball]

I registered a 4 day testaccount for a virtual server and uploaded OS2008. You can get it from here:

http://n800.java-berater.de/RX-34_2008SE_1.2007.44-4_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin

I will leave it up for the next 12 hours or so.

THANKS! Nokia still can't figure out "teh intarwebs" yet when it comes to making sure they post these things on servers with high-bandwidth pipes.

[Milhouse]

How do you get root access in the first place? I am able to ssh root@localhost but the "rootme" password does not work. Do you know the OS2008 root password?

Best to search the forum for problems that have nothing to do with OS2008 and have already been answered a million times. The root password is rootme and you want to install the becomeroot package then use "sudo gainroot".

[mredeker]

Best to search the forum for problems that have nothing to do with OS2008 and have already been answered a million times. The root password is rootme and you want to install the becomeroot package then use "sudo gainroot".

Thanks. I knew that one already:D
Just thought I can skip the "becomeroot" app and ssh directly.

[Milhouse]

Since openssh was added to the extras repository you can now install openssh (or openssh-server) without needing root by using Application Manager (just enable the extras repository), then you can ssh into your device as root using the rootme password - that should (and does) work. Installing becomeroot (or enabling R&D mode) just makes life easier in general... but none of this is OS2008 specific! :)

[DCr33P]

I just installed skype on the 42-19 firmware version on my n800. It's the version announced a few days ago. Installation '(download) went very slow, but it installed and works...

[lumindigo85]

I hope this helps: http://internettablet.blogsite.org/firmware/n800/

[sdchew]

Only one question which will make OS2008 meaningful to me. Is LEAP finally supported?

[N770-Freak]

Since openssh was added to the extras repository you can now install openssh (or openssh-server) without needing root by using Application Manager (just enable the extras repository), then you can ssh into your device as root using the rootme password - that should (and does) work. Installing becomeroot (or enabling R&D mode) just makes life easier in general... but none of this is OS2008 specific! :)
I don't know why, but "rootme" didn't do the trick for me (fresh installed OS2008 beta for N800 + openssh)! I had to --enable-rd-mode and changed root password... never had this problem with OS2007...

[EIPI]

What you (and others) call "leaked" is in fact an official N810 image clever people found out how to install contra natura in the N800. What Nokia has released today is an official beta with all the ingredients developers need to make proper Chinook releases and test them in a real, supported combination.

For me the choice is clear.

My wording could have been better, qgil... mea culpa.

[jmk]

Argh the official firmware doesn't overclock N800's CPU. N810's firmware gives ~388 bogomips and official one gives ~320.

Open X terminal and type: cat /proc/cpuinfo

N800's official OS2008 betafirmware feels sometimes little bit slower.

[deeteroderdas]

Argh the official firmware doesn't overclock N800's CPU. N810's firmware gives ~388 bogomips and official one gives ~320.

Open X terminal and type: cat /proc/cpuinfo

N800's official OS2008 betafirmware feels sometimes little bit slower.



388.54 BogoMIPS here (N800 w/fresh 2008 install)

[Munk]

Same here: 388.54 BogoMIPS

[GeneralAntilles]

Argh the official firmware doesn't overclock N800's CPU. N810's firmware gives ~388 bogomips and official one gives ~320.

Open X terminal and type: cat /proc/cpuinfo

N800's official OS2008 betafirmware feels sometimes little bit slower.

It throttles, so it depends on the CPU load.

[soypunk]

388.54 BogoMIPS here (N800 w/fresh 2008 install)

Ditto, I'm getting 388.54 with the same setup as you.

[atmasphere]

I've just created a torrent here:

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3910524

I hope that works!

From 7 hours to 5 minutes!

[Munk]

Ok, I'm kind of new to the bug reporting thing and want to point out that the web browser crashes a lot. Hopefully this is the right thread to even bring this up.

Try this and see if you get the same problem:
1) Open a new browser
2) Click on the "maemo" link under the Google search text box
3) Click on "Downloads"

On mine, it crashes soon after. Is anyone else getting this problem and if so, how do we submit it?

Thanks

[blakboy98]

i have confirmed that the bluetooth headset works now but only mono, i think someone did mention this. It worked well with gizmo from what my wife said. i was also able to answer the call with the headset. tested with plantronic 320 and motorola ht820

[ferjant]

I hope this helps: http://internettablet.blogsite.org/firmware/n800/

you rock, downloaded it in less than 2 minutes. thank you so much for the link :D

[iball]

Well, well, well, Skype installs with this one. Gizmo also working.
And of course, SIP still doesn't work over VPN. Old bug still not fixed.

[deeteroderdas]

I think I might have found something...

I am ssh'd into my N800/OS08 and was manually doing apt-get update (faster, IMHO) and noticed some libraries being held back:

libsofia-sip-ua-glib3
libsofia-sip-ua

Hmmm. Now, up until now, I had been one of the ones unable to install Skype. Anyway, I typed 'apt-get install libsofia-sip-ua-glib3 libsofia-sip-ua' and a warning appeard that the file 'osso-software-version' would be removed. I aborted the install, then ran a 'dpkg -l|grep osso-software-version. Here is the description:

Nokia-N800-44-4:~# dpkg -l|grep osso-software-version
ii osso-software-version 1.2007.44-4 Placeholder to support lock-down

Hmmm. So, I reran the install, allowed osso-software-version to be removed. Then, on a whim, I did an apt-get install of skype, and it worked!

Nokia-N800-44-4:~# apt-get install skype
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
skype
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
Need to get 2004kB of archives.
After unpacking 2638kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com chinook/user skype 1.7.62.48.2 [2004kB]
Fetched 2004kB in 9s (203kB/s)
(Reading database ... 18586 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking skype (from .../skype_1.7.62.48.2_armel.deb) ...

I dunno if that is the new version number. This may be a false alarm. But it might be the trick.

Anyone with more knowledge about this feel free to correct me.

UPDATE: Crud. I'll correct myself. Running the Application Manager shows Skype still there, and it STILL won't install. (I didn't use it, anyway, but wanted to "crack the nut".

[thoughtfix]

Had to give all 150 some posts here massive props (http://tabletblog.com/2007/11/os2008-on-n800-pretty-good.html) in my latest blog post. You're all taking my work from me!

[Milhouse]

Argh the official firmware doesn't overclock N800's CPU. N810's firmware gives ~388 bogomips and official one gives ~320.

Open X terminal and type: cat /proc/cpuinfo

N800's official OS2008 betafirmware feels sometimes little bit slower.

My N800 running OS2008/N800(-18) gives


BogoMIPS : 320.37


So it appears my device boots with a 320Mhz clock but otherwise scales quite nicely once booted. I guess your device scaled up to 400Mhz when booting OS2008/N810 (on N800) thus giving you a higher Bogomip figure, and your device doesn't need to scale when booting OS2008/N800 (installed software difference, maybe?)

[qgil]

if nokia/maemo only heard of this thing called bittorrent...

We know bittorrent. And you know that Nokia asks users to identify their devices and accept an EULA before downloading. Now, how you would combine both?

Sorry for the download speed problems and thank you to those offering alternative solutions.

We are paying some money for good bandwidth and global caching. We will look today to the download statistics and talk to the service providers to see what was/is going on.

[namtastic]

We know bittorrent. And you know that Nokia asks users to identify their devices and accept an EULA before downloading. Now, how you would combine both?

Um... Accept the EULA and then download the .torrent file, perhaps? :rolleyes:

[bachviet]

I've just created a torrent here:

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3910524

I hope that works!

Thanks for the link since I only get around 8-9 KB/s from Nokia site.

[kyyla]

Ok, I'm kind of new to the bug reporting thing and want to point out that the web browser crashes a lot. Hopefully this is the right thread to even bring this up.

Try this and see if you get the same problem:
1) Open a new browser
2) Click on the "maemo" link under the Google search text box
3) Click on "Downloads"

On mine, it crashes soon after. Is anyone else getting this problem and if so, how do we submit it?

Thanks
I had this problem when I restored an OS2007 backup. I guess the only solution is not to restore everything (settings maybe) from OS2007.

[jonmlee]

From 7 hours to 5 minutes!

Thank god for this. I was getting so annoyed thinking how they can't have bigger pipe and that a torrent might be the better option (albeit somewhat illegal).

[RipTorn]

Is there a reason 'clear' isn't installed on the OS2008 for n800 ?
I mean come on, I give my mate sh*t for not having ping installed on his palm by default, its sad that a Linux based os doesn't have 'clear'


Nokia-N800-44-4:~# clear
-sh: clear: not found
Nokia-N800-44-4:~#


ugh! please tell me I am doing something wrong :p

-Rip

[RipTorn]

Ok, another thing, where does the sources.list get stored now

my /etc/apt/sources.list is an empty file...

-Rip

[dblank]

Is there a reason 'clear' isn't installed on the OS2008 for n800 ?


I'd guess they figure most people won't be using the terminal.

It's easy enough to install though, part of the ncurses-bin package.

[jmk]

sources.list is located at /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list

[dblank]

Ok, another thing, where does the sources.list get stored now


/etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list

[jmk]

Alright i restarted the device couple of times and got 388 bogomips on the third time. Sorry i thought you can always read best bogomips value from proc/cpuinfo.

[RipTorn]

cool, thanks for the help :D

but I now get

Nokia-N800-44-4:~# clear
'xterm': unknown terminal type.

:\

I wouldn't think its that hard...

[anidel]

Um... Accept the EULA and then download the .torrent file, perhaps? :rolleyes:

Well but then you are accepting the EULA for the torrent file, not for the firmware one.
Unless, I think, they change the EULA and letting it referring the .bin file downloaded from the torrent.

There's some legal issues here, I suppose...

[maxilogan]

It throttles, so it depends on the CPU load.

Yes, just opened X-Term and got 166, then started UKMP and while loading I launched the command again and got 388.54 :D

[dblank]

Nokia-N800-44-4:~# clear
'xterm': unknown terminal type.


oh, you need ncurses-base, too (for terminfo)

[murphy]

I just installed RX-34_2008SE_1.2007.44-4_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin from torrent but :
- About product is still "unknown"
- Skype installed well but shows "N810"

[RipTorn]

Cheers thanks for the help,

So far my only issues with OS2008 is:

Xchat (much better than the other integrated IRC clients, I used Skyhuskers on bora, I have tried doing a standard compile on Chinook SDK and could compile Xchat but it doesn't run correctly and the buttons are too close together and can't connect to an IRC server)

Maemo Mapper is a must for me as well, and I can't seem to get it to work on OS2008

Repositorys don't seem to be compleatly up to date yet ( I couldn't install pidgin till I added a repository for mistral from maemo hackers, I also have a massive distaste with installing repository's for a different distro onto another distro, just comes across as messy house keeping)

No FM tuner (but I would imagine it would be in OS2008 final for N800

Samba browsing doesn't seem to allow me to add in a password for a found samba server and displays a blank folder.

BUT..

most of my issues are 3rd party related and it isn't fair to lay these onto the N800 OS2008 beta, for what its designed to do browsing the web email and all that kinda stuff out of the box its fine.

All that said, I love my n800 and the OS's and wouldn't be here if I didn't!

thanks to all the devs working on the N8XX OS's makes me love it even more.

-Rip

[maxilogan]

( I couldn't install pidgin till I added a repository for mistral from maemo hackers, I also have a massive distaste with installing repository's for a different distro onto another distro, just comes across as messy house keeping)

Did you ever try to configure an MSN (or whatever) transport over the standard chat client? Works great for me :)

http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=86627#post86627

[GeneralAntilles]

Anybody manage to get soft poweroff working correctly? I opened a bug (https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=2400), perhaps some of you could do some testing to confirm? Kinda disappointing, as soft poweroff was an important feature.

[evanjfraser]

My N800 refused to unlock for the first time last night. It's only happened once so far, but it didn't happen to me with the leaked N810-18 firmware that I used for a while.

Has anyone else had that happen?

[badgerbalti]

One thing I have found with the skype issue is that if I flash the new n800 os2008 beta by unpacking and flashing the zimage, inifs and rootfs on linux with flasher3 seperatly (as per hacked 810 os2008 firmware install) then skype will install without issue.

If I just do a straight flash using the bin package then skype complains and says I need a newer 810 firmware.

Previously I have had the 810 os2008 firmware flashed onto my device.

I've noticed during an R&D boot with the info displayed that it reports initfs RX-44
I can't remember what it said before but shouldn't it be RX-34 not RX-44 if mine is an N800...?

Any ideas?

[badgerbalti]

Just a quick thought but I might try flashing back to an original os2007 and then go up to 0s2008 beta to see if that changes anything when I get home later

[RobMtl007]

Greetings:

I installed the 2008OS and here are the following problems:

Skype does not install
Also I find that the actual viewing screen is smaller.

I hope the developers will begin to add their programs in the repository.

Regards Robert

[MimUK]

I hope the developers will begin to add their programs in the repository.

Regards Robert

You can untick the disable maemo extras catalogue in the Application Manager.

[mredeker]

All,

I have the problem that my OS2008 on the N800 does not finish booting when I have my internal card with my OS2007 clone inserted. I can use the bootmenu fine and boot into the 'old' OS. But when I choose to boot the 'new' OS from the flash it always reaches the point that the blue bar at the bottom of the screen is all the way to the end and then nothing happens. I have to remove battery to be able to reboot.

If I remove the internal card everything works fine.

Any ideas? Thanks!

[convulted]

Any progress on the Skype issue? Should we submit a bugzilla report or something? Was the comment by someone about a version check being implemented incorrectly looked into?

Sorry for such an ugly post, don't have much time to check itT from work :)

[maxilogan]

Any ideas? Thanks!

Try to reflash; I have the same situation (tough my OS2008 is the N810 one) but regular behaviour (both the OSs boot)

[basco]

I really like this new os and haven't found a reason to go back to os2007 yet. My browser hasn't crashed yet and very stable. The only thing that has crashed was the app manager when installing pidgin. The lack of apps is the only reason I would go back but at this point the benefits outweigh the disadvantages.

BTW, Rhapsody is awesome. It hasn't crashed yet and the os2008 version has a few more added features like the applet, the album and artist page.

[El Amir]

I registered a 4 day testaccount for a virtual server and uploaded OS2008. You can get it from here:

http://n800.java-berater.de/RX-34_2008SE_1.2007.44-4_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin

I will leave it up for the next 12 hours or so.


i love u man!!! tried to d/l it 4times yesterday with no success with speeds of 2/11 kB. got it from ur link in 1min 30sec and with speed of 2300kB

i owe u one...wheres the thanks button again ? :D

[lbattraw]

Any progress on the Skype issue? Should we submit a bugzilla report or something? Was the comment by someone about a version check being implemented incorrectly looked into?

Sorry for such an ugly post, don't have much time to check itT from work :)
I have found a way to make Skype work, but it's a little tedious if you don't have OpenSSH or Dropbear SSH installed. You'll need to do this as root, either by using ssh root@(your n800 IP) or sudo gainroot from the X-term application (Only works you are in R&D mode). I did an apt-get skype; this will download the deb package to /var/cache/apt/archives (and produce the standard error). You can then install it manually using dpkg:
dpkg -X /var/cache/apt/archives/skype_1.7.62.48.2_armel.deb /

This will extract it to the root directory without running the flawed setup script. Once you do that the Skype application listed under "My Selection" will work. I'm not sure what the setup scripts do but they don't seem to be essential and the next time you install something else they'll run (automatically) without any errors.

Good luck!
Larry

[mredeker]

got it from ur link in 1min 30sec and with speed of 2300kB:D

Thanks. I guess, I will leave the file up for another day :D

File is removed now!

[mredeker]

Try to reflash; I have the same situation (tough my OS2008 is the N810 one) but regular behaviour (both the OSs boot)

I reflashed to the OS2008 for N800 which came out yesterday. But again I still have this behaviour. With card I can boot OS2007 from card and booting from flash hangs without card I can boot from flash.

Strange. Well, maybe the official OS2008 will not have this problem :(

[MimUK]

There is now an updated skype version in the application manager!!!
(4.42MB)

[EIPI]

Can anyone confirm that their BT headsets are working with the built-in 'Internet Call' app?

[deeteroderdas]

Anybody manage to get soft poweroff working correctly? I opened a bug (https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=2400), perhaps some of you could do some testing to confirm? Kinda disappointing, as soft poweroff was an important feature.

I can confirm problems with soft poweroff: With 2007, I had it set for the long power button keypress. When I did that, the screen would blank, come back on, then go off until I pressed the power button again.

Now: Same settings as above, long press give the blank, come back on. Now the power button is totally unresponsive.

Is this the problem you are having?

[bunanson]

388.54 BogoMIPS here (N800 w/fresh 2008 install)

770:
4.2007.26-8 (2007He) 2G kingston MMC boot (no plus): 125.76
same for flash boot.

388.54/125.76 = 3.09; approx clocked 3X faster when compare to the 'classic', the 770.

bun

[jmancine]

Does anyone know how to "force" a refresh of the Application Manager? Mine says it was last refreshed on 11/26/2007 and that there are no updates. When I hit the update button, it doesn't do anything. This was not an issue for me in OS2007.

[evanjfraser]

Bring down the application manager menu and go Tools -> Refres application list

Evan.

[jmancine]

Silly me...I thought the "Check For Updates" button might work. :p

Thanks!

[evanjfraser]

Yeah I guess things could be named a little clearer.

The "Check for updates" button checks the catalogue for updates to packages already installed.

And the "refresh application list" is what updates the catalogue.

[maxilogan]

anyone noticed that now in order to disable the BT it is needed one more tap? :mad:

the "disable BT" option in the drop-down menu from the BT icon disappered, now you just have the "BT properties" entry, that you have to tap, then on the window that'll appear, you can check or uncheck the activation checkbox... :rolleyes:

[Benson]

anyone noticed that now in order to disable the BT it is needed one more tap? :mad:

the "disable BT" option in the drop-down menu from the BT icon disappered, now you just have the "BT properties" entry, that you have to tap, then on the window that'll appear, you can check or uncheck the activation checkbox... :rolleyes:

AAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[flareup]

beta working nicely here, skype too - only strange thing was had an "unable to refresh list" from app manager when trying to download skype, then restored my backup and app list refreshed properly and skype downloaded and works fine!

[anidel]

About the bluetooth icon.
I think it's real meaning is NOT to tell you that bluetooth is on or off.
It is there to tell you if you are communicating with a device or not.
That's because the power management policies of the tablet will turn if off for you when it has not been used for a while.
The former behavior was inconsistent with this, and they made it now consistent.

I don't turn the bluetooth off an I don't leave it "reachable", in this way I am sure it won't drain my battery when it is not in use.
Or at least the impact is very low.

I like the way it behaves now.

[flareup]

forgot to mention the best bit, I think only Milhouse will be interested if memory serves.....

AT LAST, hi res BBC news streaming vid!!!!!!

[Forgotten1]

Wow!!! How far we have come since the N770. The new 2008OS is wonderful. The main thing I see is to do a clean update and everything works great. The first time I updated I used my old backup and things just seemed to be screwed up. So I just went ahead and updated with out the backup. Thanks Nokia for a great looking OS..................

[ranasing]

I know everyone has been trying to get Skype working (which I am trying download again) to see if I can get it installed. I was wondering, though, if anyone has been able to get the Gizmo IM to video chat between the N800 and a PC? I have got it to work between my two N800's, but not with a N800 and a PC. Any one else have any luck?

[murphy]

Since OS2008 is installed, when I restart OS2007 from SD it starts fine BUT wifi seems disabled ! No signal found !
Anyone else ?

[Munk]

Just after I installed the OS2008 beta I was having problems with the web browser crashing when I went to maemo.org/downloads or other websites. Skype also wouldn't install.

Today, I decided to flash a second time and this time NOT TO restore backups. Now, everything is working great with the web browser and Skype installed first time. I'm not sure if the Skype is because as someone mentioned with them updating the application list or not. Either way, I'd recommend just starting fresh and not restoring everything that you had previousely. :D

[Forgotten1]

I also noticed that the look and feel of the 2008OS was different without the old backup file. The tablet seems to be more responsive than before.........

[Munk]

I also noticed that the look and feel of the 2008OS was different without the old backup file. The tablet seems to be more responsive than before.........

Yeah, I noticed that too I just didn't have any proof that there was a difference. I believe the fonts are smaller and borders are a little different too. And, the responsiveness seems better too as you pointed out.

[ch8xy]

Guys, are we talking about OS2008 beta here or is OS2008 already out?

[TA-t3]

Beta.
0123456

[RedMist]

forgot to mention the best bit, I think only Milhouse will be interested if memory serves.....

AT LAST, hi res BBC news streaming vid!!!!!!

How do you see this. I cannot get see any BBC streaming vids?

EDIT: Never mind. i can see them when I click on Use external viewer. :)

[GeneralAntilles]

I can confirm problems with soft poweroff: With 2007, I had it set for the long power button keypress. When I did that, the screen would blank, come back on, then go off until I pressed the power button again.

Now: Same settings as above, long press give the blank, come back on. Now the power button is totally unresponsive.

Is this the problem you are having?

No, soft poweroff is now entirely functionless other than to disable the power menu. Screen blanks and then can be instantly and easily reactivated by simply tapping the touchscreen or pressing a key.

If anybody else is having major trouble with the soft poweroff feature, please vote and comment on the issue over here (https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2400).

[technut]

Since OS2008 is installed, when I restart OS2007 from SD it starts fine BUT wifi seems disabled ! No signal found !
Anyone else ?Yes, several. Known problem, no solution yet. Search.

[tarkness]

motorola H350 (mono BT headset) also works fine for the whole sound (phonecalls, system-sounds, mediaplayer, doom :D ...)
(after some help from jmancine, thx)
greets
Tark

[kyyla]

Is it possible to configure the d-pad to scroll web pages instead of the useless selection of hyperlinks?

[BruceL]

Could some kind soul(s) tell me whether Notecase, Abiword and/or Evince work in the 2008OS beta?

Thnx!

[technut]

Is it possible to configure the d-pad to scroll web pages instead of the useless selection of hyperlinks?It scrolls by default if you just hold it down for a bit.

But if you mean paging down, then someone posted a method just today:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=100884#post100884

[TTgowings]

I was very reluctant to install the new "beta" software but I figured how bad can it be ? Will I not be able to view my favorite web pages ? uncheck already couldn't view many of my fav pages(incl. ITT), better overall speed and possibly better battery life, check, and possibly a few proggy's not yet pkgd for OS2008, I'll take my chances..

So I think I've cut my random browser crashes by about 80% so far from 07 to 08 and I may have to wait for a few more of my fav programs to come out but it's well worth it to me.

Even though they called this release a beta I almost wonder if our 2nd to last 07 update wasn't a "beta release" as well, since the update to that update was pretty fast..

And I as many others am having some issues with recompiled apps, Skype included (for which I finally got it to install this eve, no idea how just kept refreshing app manger and also going to the ever useful repo list (http://www.gronmayer.com/it/index.php?lang=en) and after a couple more times it finally installed, I did NOT have to use X-term or become root etc., I just installed from the avail pkg in App Mgr)

I now know though why so many people were running the hacked version of OS2008 though, seems like they've really improved many aspects with the IT and streamlined many functions.

Now if only I could get my tablet's bluetooth to play nice with my new DUO..

[Roc Ingersol]

Big thanks to all the .torrent seeders.

[kefelec]

I bought this N800 a few days ago. Couldn't get it to get my home Wifi (connecte, but Network problem every time I tried to go to the Web). I installed the official release....and the whole thing works like a charm! Wow! Everything I was hoping for in an Internet tablet.

[basco]

Could some kind soul(s) tell me whether Notecase, Abiword and/or Evince work in the 2008OS beta?

Thnx!

Notecase and Abiword do not work, don't know about Evince

[paratox]

faster, more stable, looks nicer! i love it!
sometimes the app manager is a bit slowly when it updates the packagelist.
i hope the backlight management will be better next release and the whole apps will be updated soon to work on os2008.
is already a (transparent) taskbar clock available? i miss it. also some dark themes (specialy for the keyboard) would be nice. if anybody knows one, please reply.

[Texrat]

About the bluetooth icon.
I think it's real meaning is NOT to tell you that bluetooth is on or off.
It is there to tell you if you are communicating with a device or not.

But that can also be achieved by leaving the icon persistent yet changing its state.

Bottom line, it should be the user's choice what is persistent in that bar and what is not.

[phi]

So I just upgraded my newly bought n800 last night and then I downgraded this morning. The thumbboard is driving me nuts. It doesn't input passwords properly, and it double types everything in xTerm.

MicroB also needs a non-hack way to configure the dpad. I do not want to page up and down via the scroll bar and stylus/fingernail.

[anidel]

But that can also be achieved by leaving the icon persistent yet changing its state.

Bottom line, it should be the user's choice what is persistent in that bar and what is not.

Sure.
I was not defending their choice. I was trying to explain it as it also happens to be the way I use it.

[dblank]

So I just upgraded my newly bought n800 last night and then I downgraded this morning. The thumbboard is driving me nuts. It doesn't input passwords properly, and it double types everything in xTerm.

MicroB also needs a non-hack way to configure the dpad. I do not want to page up and down via the scroll bar and stylus/fingernail.

Make sure you use bugs.maemo.org, file bug and enhancement reports if they don't already exist, and if they do exist, vote for them, add comments, etc.

[phi]

Make sure you use bugs.maemo.org, file bug and enhancement reports if they don't already exist, and if they do exist, vote for them, add comments, etc.

I saw a bug on bugzilla related to thumb board and AJAX input already so I just added a comment to it.

[alvindd]

Just upgraded to OS2008 Beta, my comments:

OS2008 seems faster than OS2007.

"Listen Now" on Sirius.com still does not work ; can log in but no music is played.
Maybe an Add-on for Mozilla is needed?

Media Streamer is not compatible with OS2008.

How can the font size be increased?
Font way too small for me. If I zoom a web site page size, it distorts the view(page not displayed correctly).
I tried using Midnight Commander, browsed to /.mozilla/microb/prefs.js and saw nothing mentioning font size.

[phi]

Just upgraded to OS2008 Beta, my comments:

OS2008 seems faster than OS2007.

"Listen Now" on Sirius.com still does not work ; can log in but no music is played.
Maybe an Add-on for Mozilla is needed?

Media Streamer is not compatible with OS2008.

How can the font size be increased?
Font way too small for me. If I zoom a web site page size, it distorts the view(page not displayed correctly).
I tried using Midnight Commander, browsed to /.mozilla/microb/prefs.js and saw nothing mentioning font size.

its in the about:config

do a search, there are a few threads on it already.

[alvindd]

its in the about:config

do a search, there are a few threads on it already.

"about:config" locks up my N800.

Using Midnight commander, I added
user_pref("font.min-size.fixed.x-western", 17);
user_pref("font.min-size.variable.x-western", 17);
to prefs.js
and that seemed to increase font size.