[Palm OS] Garnet vm no longer available for n810?

[bnocturnal]

is anyone able to tell me where to get the garnet vm for the n810/it2008? it no longer appears to be available from palm...

i can register and receive the download link, but the file isn't actually there to download... i can still get the n800 version, but that won't install on os2008. :-(

[Zuber]

I think they were expecting to do another release in December. Perhaps it's in pep for that.

Then again, can't see any significant release till new year to be honest...

Zuber

[PinCushionQueen]

FWIW, I just downloaded it not 5 seconds ago. I finally did the OS2008 update and needed to reinstall it anyway. Go try it again :D Also, note that when you click on the link in the email that they send you, you'll first need to accept the license agreement and then you can download the deb.

[heron61]

I think they were expecting to do another release in December. Perhaps it's in pep for that.

Then again, can't see any significant release till new year to be honest...Does anyone know if there is actually going to be a new release of this program? I very much hope so, because I'm hoping that there will be a full screen or nearly full screen version.

[ArgentSilver]

Does anyone know if there is actually going to be a new release of this program? I very much hope so, because I'm hoping that there will be a full screen or nearly full screen version.
There doesn't seem to be much info from them, other than the fact that the present beta expires in May. I've gone to their feedback page and given info on what apps I have running under the VM, so they have my email address, but haven't sent any announcements or acknowledements.

[bnocturnal]

FWIW, I just downloaded it not 5 seconds ago. I finally did the OS2008 update and needed to reinstall it anyway. Go try it again :D Also, note that when you click on the link in the email that they send you, you'll first need to accept the license agreement and then you can download the deb.

weird... my link was still bad. i reregistered with a different email and it works...!?

thanks,
dave

[Traecer]

is anyone able to tell me where to get the garnet vm for the n810/it2008? it no longer appears to be available from palm...


FYI, the Garnet OS VM is not offered by Palm, but by ACCESS. ACCESS, though they have a Linux-based mobile OS, no longer have any rights to the Palm name. Palm, Inc., which has all rights to the Palm name, apparently is incapable of producing a Linux-based mobile OS. It's a win-win (for their competitors).

[nedim]

FYI, the Garnet OS VM is not offered by Palm, but by ACCESS. ACCESS, though they have a Linux-based mobile OS, no longer have any rights to the Palm name. Palm, Inc., which has all rights to the Palm name, apparently is incapable of producing a Linux-based mobile OS. It's a win-win (for their competitors).

I thought Access acquired PalmOS many months ago and Linux (kernel) is the way they were going to go? Did something change? Shame, it feels they are on an express train to OS graveyard.

[TA-t3]

I'm not sure about the rights to the PalmOS name (Palm is different I'm sure - as PalmOne renamed itself to Palm when Access bought PalmSource). However, Palm kept the rights to keep using the current Garnet (PalmOS 5.4).

You're right about Access' plans though. There's an SDK out there and all. The problem is, will any hardware maker license ALP (Access Linux Platform) from Access? It may be that Palm itself won't be a customer, as they've been working on their own Linux kernel-based PalmOS. But as they (Palm) seems incapable of getting anything right these days that effort probably ends up in nothing. We'll see. In any case I think Access' Garnet VM effort is applaudable.

[sgosnell]

IIRC, Palm became PalmOne, and then became Palm again. This is the hardware company. PalmSource, the software division, became Access. This company has al the rights to PalmOS. However, Palm, the hardware company, purchased the rights for Garnet, and is allowed to make whatever changes they want to it. That's the only software Palm has now. Palm has produced devices using both Garnet and Windows Mobile, and may produce devices running something else eventually. I've lost interest in Palm products, though, because they're so far behind the times. Garnet is a dead end, because it doesn't allow multi-tasking or several other things necessary in modern devices. Palm was by far the best PDA for many years, and I loved them, but that's no longer the case.

[pronuke]

I agree completely w/ sgosnell. I was a loyal Palm customer almost since day one. Owned a Palm III, IIIx, Vx, T3, and Treo 650. I even developed a couple of simple but useful apps for the OS. Inept management and greed distracted the company from moving thier devices and OS forward. If they survive now it will be a miracle.

Pesonally, I'd rather make a clean break from remnants of Palm OS and encourage developers to work on other platforms (like this one). I'll probably keep my old T3 handy for those rare times I want to run Garnet, and don't plam to mess with the VM.

[nokiabear]

On an aside I have Garnet working on my updated OS 2008 N800... no problems for now... you can read my sig to see my affinity for Palm products. I can't see why Nokia cannot come up with a similar calendar app, or better, but I guess they are going for the "whiz-bang" before the practical.

As for Garnet VM, I just kept the link in my webmail and revisited and reinstalled after flashing my N800. Anything to play Vexed, I am addicted to that game...

[migs]

I have the N810 version of Garnet on my OS2008 N800 working great .....

[prk60091]

I've had palm products from the original palm pilot- through handspring deluxe/prism tungstent and t2 treo 600 and treo 700p. i have "tons" of $ in apps and yet after playing for a few days w/garnet vm i deleted it. to me it feels like going backward not forward as the n810 does.... fwiw the only app i truly miss is slingbox .. i thought i could never live without datebook6- i have and i am now comfortable w/the workaround.

life goes on

[migs]

Well, I got Resco Explorer working that gives me access to FTP, it is also a good zipper unzipper only thing is it does access files on N800 (at least I haven't figuerd it out yet) only within the Virtual Palm and FTP.

[Milhouse]

IIRC, Palm became PalmOne, and then became Palm again. This is the hardware company. PalmSource, the software division, became Access. This company has al the rights to PalmOS. However, Palm, the hardware company, purchased the rights for Garnet, and is allowed to make whatever changes they want to it. That's the only software Palm has now.

Just to clarify, Access was a pre-existing company specialising in web browsers for mobile devices - it wasn't formed from PalmSource. The web browser in both the Sony PSP and PS3 is from Access.

Reading about Palm and their latest crass managerial decision is like watching a soap opera - it's fantastic entertainment! Just glad I don't hold any stock or invested any significant amount of time in their devices otherwise it could be quite upsetting! :)

[taguapire]

Hi there,

I installed Garnet VM right now but, when I run it, this shows an notice saying that demo version had expired and I must go to www.access-company.com for more information. I directed my browser to that site, but no information is available. Somebody knows something about it?

Regards,

Taguapire.

[Milhouse]

Hi there,

I installed Garnet VM right now but, when I run it, this shows an notice saying that demo version had expired and I must go to www.access-company.com for more information. I directed my browser to that site, but no information is available. Somebody knows something about it?

Regards,

Taguapire.

When I select English as the language I'm taken to a home page with a link to the Garnet VM on Nokia Tablets prominently displayed in the bottom right corner. All three versions appear to still be available for download.

[M Nofier]

Hi there,

I installed Garnet VM right now but, when I run it, this shows an notice saying that demo version had expired and I must go to www.access-company.com for more information. I directed my browser to that site, but no information is available. Somebody knows something about it?

Regards,

Taguapire.

I had the same problem and it turned out that the date on my 800 was wrong. Try fixing the date on yours and see if that works.

Now if I could only sync my calendar I'd be happy.

MJP

[frozenjim]

I have gone from a love affair with my Palm devices, to distain, and now to glee that Trolltech was purchased by Nokia. It is sad to see how Palm squandered their unbeatable lead by greed and proprietary thinking. Like Microsoft, they just didn't see open source as a credible threat.

Nokia, on the other hand, seems to see things clearly.

QT4 is being developped for the N810. Give these guys a few months and we'll start to see ports of KDE and Kontact on our N810.

Go Trolltech!

Here is how it starts: http://qt4.garage.maemo.org/