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Yesterday Reggie gave moderator permissions to some ITt contributors that had requested them. I was lucky and got them too. You have probably start seeing the effects with all these threads moved to other forums.
Post your thoughts here related to moving threads. For instance, these are my first impressions:
- There are actually few threads that *really* have no better place than General or Newbie. We must assume real newbies will tend to post there as they are unsure about the rest, and we probably need some patience while the new organization consolidates. But it's worth investing extra time watching these two forums and moving the threads that can find a better place elsewhere, as they help current and new posters find their way.
- Plenty of threads go actually to apps, which might create some chaos at the beginning but can be really benefitial as we start creating categories based on the topics of the threads. For instance, Multimedia and Internet/Browser get a lot of heat and it's not hard to imagine people following them while not caring much about most of the rest.
- The OS forums are for platform topics, but now we hit the old discussion of "what is an application?". Things like File manager, Application Manager or Clock are applications strictly speaking but most users will related them to the OS, to the platform. I think we should follow that principle as well. Actually, this might save a good chink of the confusion about "official / unofficial apps" if we simply list under OS thos apps that are almost intrinsically bundles with the OS. To be fine tuned.
- The N810 / N810 / 770 forums should have mostly posts about hardware, moving systematically to Apps and OS those threads that are related to them even if the poster (with the best of his intentions, ties to a piece of hardware e.g. "Best media player for the N810" or "Wifi problems with my N800".
- Also, we need to review the sticky threads and update those containing posting instructions. They are specially needed in General and Newbie.
- And it would be good to know who has moderator permissions and know who can follow regularly a specific forum to make sure it kepps being cleaned (e.g. I can volunteer with General). Even if many of us follow everything through New Posts, I guess most of us simply don't have the time to commit moderating all new threads.
GeneralAntilles
2009-03-18, 06:07
Could we get a list of these moderators on the wiki (http://wiki.maemo.org/Talk_moderators)?
When moving a thread you have three options:
- Don't leave any trace in the original forum.
- Leave a permanent link in the original forum.
- Leave a temporary link in the original forum (defaults to 1 month).
What I'm doing is to go 1 month, so the original poster and followers have time to realize the change. Unless the thread is very long and popular, then a permanent link is probably better.
Could we get a list of these moderators on the wiki (http://wiki.maemo.org/Talk_moderators)?
Page created.
I'd be willing to do some moderation. In moderation, of course.
Thesandlord
2009-03-18, 06:35
I'd be willing to do some moderation. In moderation, of course.
Oh snap!
But most threads die off because they are quickly answered, so like qole says, do it in moderation. I also think we should have sticky threads, they make finding important information easier.
Are there moderator levels, like in some other forums? Some folks in the UTC-n timezones could be allowed to kill sale spam postings, for example.. to get rid of them earlier than now.
Here the moderator breakdown: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showgroups.php
Apparently, handful is a mod in the Canola forum, and timsamoff is also a super moderator.
But most threads die off because they are quickly answered, so like qole says, do it in moderation.[QUOTE]
Now the Newbie first page looks like almost empty with most of the entries reading "Moved". I think this is helpful to newbies finding their way, and if they don't they can still post in that forum.
Threads die off, but many times they are resurrected months after by someone hitting a similar problem. Moving them to the corresponding threads as they appear isn't that hard. No need to go and dig to older posts sleeping in "wrong" forums.
[QUOTE]I also think we should have sticky threads, they make finding important information easier.
Sure. Anybody volunteering updating / rewriting the current sticky threads? The most urgent candidates are: General, Newbie, N810, N800 and 770 (the 3 devices can be handled with almost the same sticky topic saying that they are for hardware issues, for software topics go to OS.... (platform) or the Applications thread.
andrewfblack
2009-03-21, 00:14
I don't know how many times I have said I would be willing. I mean I did make the minimalist theme :)
Thanks! Post here new threads to become sticky in their forums. We can comment and edit in them until they are ready, annd then move them.
About getting permissions, you need to ask Reggie directly.
Also, didn't the forums have a description at http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/index.php ?
If they had, volunteers to write such descriptions are welcome too.
I'm fine with this but perhaps it makes sense to keep them in the Newbie forum to avoid new threads about 'Where did my post go?'. Actually a possibility is that Newbie ends up being a gateway to other forums.
Nothe that most of those redirects will vanish after a month.
Anybody volunteering updating / rewriting the current sticky threads?
We have now sticky topic for General. From now we can move threads from there to elsewhere without leaving the redirect.
Let's do the same with the rest of forums: redirects expiring in 1 month unless the forum have the right sticky topic. Except Newbie, where I think keeping the redirects for a month is useful.
Who can I ask to move a thread? any admin? And how? Forum private message? Email? :)
Since this (http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27451) thread is beginning to take a shape I think shoul be moved to newborn multimedia:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27451
Who can I ask to move a thread? any admin? And how? Forum private message? Email? :)
You started with this thread, so let's keep using it unless someone comes with a better idea.
Since this (http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27451) thread is beginning to take a shape I think shoul be moved to newborn multimedia:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27451
Done!
GeneralAntilles
2009-03-29, 07:03
You started with this thread, so let's keep using it unless someone comes with a better idea.
Requesting administrator or moderator action is what the report button is for.
Requesting administrator or moderator action is what the report button is for.
Do you mean for normal administrative requests?
the:
Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising messages, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts.
scared me :p
We have now sticky topic for General. From now we can move threads from there to elsewhere without leaving the redirect.
Let's do the same with the rest of forums: redirects expiring in 1 month unless the forum have the right sticky topic. Except Newbie, where I think keeping the redirects for a month is useful.
I went too fast not leaving redirects in e.g. off-topic and we have got already users complaining. Also the amount of topics posted in General flagrantly belonging to other threads is still high. All in all it makes me think that is better to keep those.
Surely they look ugly, but hopefully they are educational.
One week is probably enough time to leave the redirect notices of the new threads posted out of place: changing the current practice of leaving a 1 month notice. This way they disappear sooner and the % of redirects vs threads in the main pages of the forums diminish.
Let's keep the 1 month for the old threads reopened. Maybe it makes sense. If not, let's apply 1 week there as well.
It's not clear whether very generic posts about a specific device should go better on General or th device forum.
For instance Ipod touch owner on the fence (http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28585) is about a guy asking questions about the N810 & OS2008 &apps available... all with the intention to decide whether to buy or not.
Leaving it in General unless someone finds a good reason to have it somewhere else.
I wonder what is the best place for the threads about people asking for data plans e.g. Inexpensive wireless web (http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28658) now in General.
I would say General. It doesn't really fit anywhere else.
It seems to be a good idea to concentrate any thread relative to Maemo 5 in the Maemo 5 forum, no matter whether it's in fact about the SDK, an application, idle speculation...
Once the final version is out and Maemo 5 users start popping up we can go back to the usual practices for OS2008 and previous.
Hum. Is there a way to move posts from a thread into another thread (where they are totally on-topic) and... leave a trace so the posters know what has happened to their posts?
I just moved the 2 posts of a new thread into another and the new little thread has vanished. I thought there would be a similar "Moved" notice.
Anyway, not big deal... if the posters don't complain.
Yesterday Reggie gave moderator permissions to some ITt contributors that had requested them. I was lucky and got them too. You have probably start seeing the effects with all these threads moved to other forums.
I'm now back to the comfortable position of Registered User. :) I propose to keep using this thread to request the move of threads to the right fora.
I just found these two in General that now belong to Maemo 5:
RTComm Beta Features in Fremantle? (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=287602)
Fremantle: Why no evolution data server anymore (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=27176)
Thanks!
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