View Full Version : Nokia n900 shipping date October 1st!
sachin007
2009-08-28, 20:35
From twitter
Just preordered my #N900 at the Nokia Online Shop :) Says it should arrive at October 1st! Wooot!
Den in USA
2009-08-28, 20:51
From twitter
Just preordered my #N900 at the Nokia Online Shop :) Says it should arrive at October 1st! Wooot!
Nice! Do you pay anything up front for a "preorder?
sachin007
2009-08-28, 20:52
I did not pre-order. I could not find it on nokia usa website. This is a comment from one of the twitter users. I guess you dont pay anything extra for pre-order.
kotzkind
2009-08-28, 21:11
I guess he ordered it from the German nokia shop: http://shop.nokia.de/nokia-de/product.aspx?sku=6958534
1.19 * 500 = 595.0
so the price is very near, to what nokia said
bluehash
2009-08-28, 21:21
Could you please links us. Thanks
quipper8
2009-08-28, 21:56
599,00 € = 859,9843 U.S. dollars
can NOT afford for a phone. I will have to wait for it to come down or hope and pray it will be cheaper somehow in US
deadmalc
2009-08-28, 22:01
grrr...
It's not avaliable in the uk shop, maybe I'll have to get it shipped to a friend in Germany and then here to the UK if it doesn't show up in the UK shop before end of September.
"Die Auslieferung erfolgt nur in Deutschland."
Deliveries are made only in Germany.
******* ******** ;-)
grrr...
It's not avaliable in the uk shop, maybe I'll have to get it shipped to a friend in Germany and then here to the UK if it doesn't show up in the UK shop before end of September.
Don't forget this will have the German QWERTZ keyboard!
deadmalc
2009-08-28, 22:13
Don't forget this will have the German QWERTZ keyboard!
Yeah, no problem. I remember I installed about 200 unix servers in germany using a UK keyboard, was funny.
I'd prefer a UK keyboard but, I'd prefer to actually have one than not (or wait an insane amount of time, I've waited too long for this anyway - can't wait any longer)
Viipottaja
2009-08-28, 22:57
Nokia phones are almost without exception "cheaper" in the US, so just multiplying the Euro price with the current exchange rate is likely not accurate.
m_sparks
2009-08-28, 23:43
N900 pre-ordering at expansys:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=186949
christexaport
2009-08-28, 23:48
careful! its a listing for the Euro model, not the NAM or TMO model. No AWS or at&t 3G
Yeah, no problem. I remember I installed about 200 unix servers in germany using a UK keyboard, was funny.
I'd prefer a UK keyboard but, I'd prefer to actually have one than not (or wait an insane amount of time, I've waited too long for this anyway - can't wait any longer)
It will very likely be available on the UK site at launch, i would wait.
A few hours ago I saw a feed headline that read "Nokia allows Germany and Italy to preorder N900" or some such...
Let me Google that for me ;)
Italy (http://shop.nokia.it/nokia-it/product.aspx?sku=6957164&culture=it-IT)
Germany (http://shop.nokia.de/nokia-de/product.aspx?sku=6958534)
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>> http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/28/nokia-n900-now-giving-germany-and-italy-a-way-to-pre-order/
sachin007
2009-08-29, 00:05
A few hours ago I saw a feed headline that read "Nokia allows Germany and Italy to preorder N900" or some such...
Let me Google that for me ;)
Italy (http://shop.nokia.it/nokia-it/product.aspx?sku=6957164&culture=it-IT)
Germany (http://shop.nokia.de/nokia-de/product.aspx?sku=6958534)
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>> http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/28/nokia-n900-now-giving-germany-and-italy-a-way-to-pre-order/
Why does engadget always talk about nokia negatively and applaud even apple's farts?
careful! its a listing for the Euro model, not the NAM or TMO model. No AWS or at&t 3G
Were we expecting AT&T 3G compatibility even in the U.S. version given the FCC details? Tmo uses different frequencies in their 3G and thus unless it's specifically including those freqs we're all relegated to Tmo here in the states for the time being. AFAIK 2100mhz is also a Tmo-capable band if 3G connectivity is a dealbreaker, granted Tmo's coverage is a far cry from AT&T's, as is being discussed in another thread.
If you want the best experience possible, you'd probably use wifi. 3G would be preferred when wifi isn't available but for basic use EDGE will suffice for a lot of things. (not ilarge downloads in an instant) I think if the U.S. doesn't get a release date within a reasonable timeframe of the other side of the pond some here may still choose to obtain a non-U.S. model early on and sell it later when a native U.S. version does become available.
I'm not one to do this, but I can expect others will.
a little steep! best waiting for the contract options - which operator likely to take it ?
jandmdickerson
2009-08-29, 01:00
Why does engadget always talk about nokia negatively and applaud even apple's farts?
Probaby Nokia need to send some advertising their way. Then lets see them bite the hand that feeds them.:D
Why does engadget always talk about nokia negatively and applaud even apple's farts?
Never noticed... they seem snarky to me no matter who or what they are talking about.
...anyway I'm just providing the links to back up the original post and not endorsing an opinion or product. :cool:
BTW, I pointed out the difference in price yesterday in another thread and was informed that the European prices included value added tax. I was also told that when VAT was subtracted from these prices the product would be the 500 euro's that was first reported...
Laughing Man
2009-08-29, 02:32
On their podcast (I listen to it) there was this one guy dumping on the n900's resistive touch screen. Saying how it'll never be as good as a capacitative, etc..etc..
Which I find not necessarily valid. I kinda wanted to respond or send in a voicemail pointing out that it's more the UI then it is the choice of touchscreen. He used an example of how he say a guy have to take out a stylus to use his touchscreen phone/pda/whatever and struggle with it. Yet I can use my n800 mostly with just my fingers. I only have trouble hitting the X due to its placement and other tiny buttons but mostly everything else I do just fine using my fingers on a resistive touchscreen.
So proper UI design should pretty much eliminate most of the problems people have with resistive touch screens.
m_sparks
2009-08-29, 02:35
careful! its a listing for the Euro model, not the NAM or TMO model. No AWS or at&t 3G
Crap!! :eek::eek: didn't even think of that! :rolleyes:
Big thanks for the heads up - need to be less emotional about my purchase and check out ALL the facts.
cheers!
BadMojoUT
2009-08-29, 04:21
careful! its a listing for the Euro model, not the NAM or TMO model. No AWS or at&t 3G
Actually, the N900 is listed as having Tri-Band UMTS support, meaning that even the Euro models will support AWS. So there shouldn't be any issues with using it in the US on T-Mobile.
However, Nokia only covers warranty for a device in the region/country that it was bought in. In other words, if you buy a Nokia phone from the UK and try to claim warranty in the US, you're out of luck. You would have to send the device to a Nokia service center in the UK to get a replacement or have it repaired. So there is that to consider.
jalladin
2009-08-29, 04:30
Actually, the N900 is listed as having Tri-Band UMTS support, meaning that even the Euro models will support AWS. So there shouldn't be any issues with using it in the US on T-Mobile.
However, Nokia only covers warranty for a device in the region/country that it was bought in. In other words, if you buy a Nokia phone from the UK and try to claim warranty in the US, you're out of luck. You would have to send the device to a Nokia service center in the UK to get a replacement or have it repaired. So there is that to consider.
thanks for clearing that up, i was getting worried since i just placed my pre- ordre with expansys ( i think it the uk version is why).:o
so out side the warranty i shouldnt have any issues or see any major differences in the version i get and the US version when it comes available?
599,00 € = 859,9843 U.S. dollars
can NOT afford for a phone. I will have to wait for it to come down or hope and pray it will be cheaper somehow in US
- You can get a mobile phone for 20$.
- This is MUCH more than a phone and that is why it is expensive. I call it the Superphone :-) Don't expect the world to be free.
- Waiting might help
- Praying probably won't :D
BadMojoUT
2009-08-29, 22:47
thanks for clearing that up, i was getting worried since i just placed my pre- ordre with expansys ( i think it the uk version is why).:o
so out side the warranty i shouldnt have any issues or see any major differences in the version i get and the US version when it comes available?
Correct. There are minor differences in the bundling of software. I've seen NAM handsets get things like 6 months free of Ovi Maps out of the box (which then was later introduced to other Euro devices), but you shouldn't miss out on too much. Oh yeah, you'll also more likely get firmware updates far quicker than the NAM counterparts although Nokia has been improving on this front lately.
Interestingly enough, I've already seen rumors for another Maemo device for release in 2010 with bumped up specs. But take that as you will.
christexaport
2009-08-29, 23:16
Actually, the N900 is listed as having Tri-Band UMTS support, meaning that even the Euro models will support AWS. So there shouldn't be any issues with using it in the US on T-Mobile.
not entirely true. In order to work on TMoUSA, it needs 1700 and 2100, not only one, so if these aren't on the Euro model, and they aren't, you'll only get EDGE data speeds.
However, Nokia only covers warranty for a device in the region/country that it was bought in. In other words, if you buy a Nokia phone from the UK and try to claim warranty in the US, you're out of luck. You would have to send the device to a Nokia service center in the UK to get a replacement or have it repaired. So there is that to consider.
Not entirely true, either. Before recently, the only way to get Symbian Nseries phones was importers. I regularly bought from overseas and had shipped to the States. I had my warranty. Here's what I usually do:
Go to Nokia.com and register your device online. That's it. Any problems, just do a trouble ticket online, and they schedule the repair, and tell you where to mail it. I usually got it back in about 4-8 weeks, and usually got it replaced if anything seemed hard to repair. Always treated nicely and always got my device back working perfectly. But backup first, because they always flash to the latest firmware before sending her back home.
christexaport
2009-08-29, 23:16
Guys, the prices aren't based on the exchange rate. Nokia prices differently in each market. That's the price over there, not the US
BadMojoUT
2009-08-30, 00:26
not entirely true. In order to work on TMoUSA, it needs 1700 and 2100, not only one, so if these aren't on the Euro model, and they aren't, you'll only get EDGE data speeds.
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=1150129&native_or_pdf=pdf
That's the FCC report for the RX-51, aka as the N900. If you look at the SAR report, you'll notice that the WCDMA bands of 1700/2100 were tested, which is what T-Mobile USA uses. Now, if you're thinking that the N900 that the FCC tested was a specific NAM variant, then the internal codename for the N900 would have been different from the devices being previewed by people like Eldar at Mobile-Review. For example, if you look at past devices:
Original Euro/Asia N95-1 = RM-159
NAM N95-3 = RM-160
Euro/Asia N86 = RM-484
NAM N86 = RM-485
China N86 = RM-486
Euro/Asia N97 = RM-505
NAM N97 = RM-506
..and so on. The fact that there's only been one variant thus far, the RX-51, and that the FCC tested it on 1700/2100 indicates that importers should have no issues running this device on T-Mobile's 3G network.
Not entirely true, either. Before recently, the only way to get Symbian Nseries phones was importers. I regularly bought from overseas and had shipped to the States. I had my warranty. Here's what I usually do:
Go to Nokia.com and register your device online. That's it. Any problems, just do a trouble ticket online, and they schedule the repair, and tell you where to mail it. I usually got it back in about 4-8 weeks, and usually got it replaced if anything seemed hard to repair. Always treated nicely and always got my device back working perfectly. But backup first, because they always flash to the latest firmware before sending her back home.
That's interesting although that's contradictory to my experiences. I used to buy a lot of devices abroad whenever I'd travel. It was a bit of a crapshoot because if the phone ever died, I was pretty much screwed. Heck, once I even had a minor software issue and when I called NokiaUSA support, they were reluctant in helping me out because my device wasn't bought in the US. Don't even ask me about trying to get replacements - I was pretty much on my own.
I never did bother registering my devices so maybe that's the key? Somewhat strange because for other NAM devices I've bought, I could get them exchanged or repaired without having to register. If for whatever reason I have to purchase devices from abroad again, I may have to give that method a shot.
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=1150129&native_or_pdf=pdf
That's interesting although that's contradictory to my experiences. I used to buy a lot of devices abroad whenever I'd travel. It was a bit of a crapshoot because if the phone ever died, I was pretty much screwed. Heck, once I even had a minor software issue and when I called NokiaUSA support, they were reluctant in helping me out because my device wasn't bought in the US. Don't even ask me about trying to get replacements - I was pretty much on my own.
I never did bother registering my devices so maybe that's the key? Somewhat strange because for other NAM devices I've bought, I could get them exchanged or repaired without having to register. If for whatever reason I have to purchase devices from abroad again, I may have to give that method a shot.
That has been my experience as well that your out of luck with your warranty if the device is not "officially" sold in your country, I have sent a email to Nokia to clear this up and will post their reply
iamNarada
2009-08-30, 22:34
Actually, the N900 is listed as having Tri-Band UMTS support, meaning that even the Euro models will support AWS. So there shouldn't be any issues with using it in the US on T-Mobile.
Er.... actually, the n900 listed on the Expansys preoder is not Tri-band UMTS, it specifically says dual band, and neither of the bands are bands that work in the US. Maybe they're just not mentioning the 1700. But buyer beware.
I did not pre-order. I could not find it on nokia usa website. This is a comment from one of the twitter users. I guess you dont pay anything extra for pre-order.
would probably have helped if you wrapped that twitter quote in either "" or quote tags...
From my understanding i don't think the n900 has been submitted or approved by the FCC and since the due date is October first i don't think the 850/1900 version will come out any time soon.
The N900 has been submitted to the FCC.
(http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=30704&highlight=n900+fcc)
christexaport
2009-08-31, 02:51
Er.... actually, the n900 listed on the Expansys preoder is not Tri-band UMTS, it specifically says dual band, and neither of the bands are bands that work in the US. Maybe they're just not mentioning the 1700. But buyer beware.
Expansys is known for this. They are speculating its release, and getting as many preorders so they can have an idea how many they need to order from distributors. I'm hoping a quadband model supporting 850/1700/1800/2100 to cover all us models.
iamNarada
2009-08-31, 02:58
Ha! You and me both. While we're at it, why don't we wish for non contractual data plans so that we could switch to whom ever was offering the best plan or had the best coverage at the moment.The quad band is still possible, there is such a thing as a request for confidentially to the FCC, which at the very least delays when they make testing and/or approval information public. But I think it's more likely that there will be a separate model that appears later for AT&T. That's what T-mobile would want, and I think Nokia realizes that the majority of the market they're after will not be able to get the n900 without a carrier subsidy, so they need to keep the carriers happy. All speculation of course, just my 2 cents.
christexaport
2009-08-31, 03:38
You must also realize that Nokia won't allow at&t to do the branding and locking down of the device, and they probably don't even want it, since it would cripple their network further with its data hungry browser and nature.
christexaport
2009-08-31, 04:02
this could be Nokia sticking it to at&t for being so demanding, oppressive, and limiting to its customers, and in turn, Nokia's customers.
What exactly is the difference in keyboard between the German and the Italian e.g.? Does anyone know if I can order it to Denmark? Sadly there is no nokia store available for .dk :(
My n810 is with english keyboard and that works fine. But German might actually be better since the keys are almost the same (ö = ø, ä = å and so on).
Peter@Maemo Marketing
2009-08-31, 08:03
grrr...
It's not avaliable in the uk shop, maybe I'll have to get it shipped to a friend in Germany and then here to the UK if it doesn't show up in the UK shop before end of September.
"Die Auslieferung erfolgt nur in Deutschland."
Deliveries are made only in Germany.
******* ******** ;-)
Patience, gentlemen!
French beet the UK: http://boutique.nokia.fr/nokia-fr/product.aspx?sku=6957877&culture=fr-FR
Humm ... French store ... sold out ...
Andre Klapper
2009-08-31, 10:13
What exactly is the difference in keyboard between the German and the Italian e.g.?
See "Keyboard layout" on Wikipedia.
See "Keyboard layout" on Wikipedia.
By the way, has it been confirmed that N900 will have different kinds of regional keyboards available?
By the way, has it been confirmed that N900 will have different kinds of regional keyboards available?
Yes. At least it was confirmed for German variant.
not entirely true. In order to work on TMoUSA, it needs 1700 and 2100, not only one, so if these aren't on the Euro model, and they aren't, you'll only get EDGE data speeds.
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I thought the ONLY model that has been announced has 900, 1700, and 2100?
I'm hoping a quadband model supporting 850/1700/1800/2100 to cover all us models.
Shouldn't that be 1900 instead of 1800?
And you're referring to US only, correct?
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=25114&refid=froogle&utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=organic&utm_term=NOKN9000BKEU&utm_campaign=froogle
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=25114&refid=froogle&utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=organic&utm_term=NOKN9000BKEU&utm_campaign=froogle
It is nice to see it up for US pre-order, but their detailed specs seem to be a little inflated (ie SMS, MMS, digital compass).
ossipena
2009-09-03, 11:30
Yes. At least it was confirmed for German variant.
finnish variant has also been confirmed
quipper8
2009-09-03, 11:36
You must also realize that Nokia won't allow at&t to do the branding and locking down of the device, and they probably don't even want it, since it would cripple their network further with its data hungry browser and nature.
They allowed them to do it to the e71x
BolajiDotNet
2009-09-03, 21:37
N900 now available for preorder on Nokiausa.com
N900 now available for preorder on Nokiausa.com
$649 is the preorder price.
So I am gonna wait for a month and hopefully it will be under $600 by the time I jump for it. :)
quipper8
2009-09-03, 22:39
N900 now available for preorder on Nokiausa.com
nokiusa.com charges sales tax, bummer!
quipper8
2009-09-03, 22:40
when I added to my cart they added a BH-703 BT headset for free too. bummed that they charge $50 of sales tax though
bluehash
2009-09-03, 23:15
Direct link anyone?Please
I can only see the N86 on preorder.
Edit:
http://www.nokiausa.com/find-products/phones/nokia-n900#/main/landing
sachin007
2009-09-03, 23:19
http://www.nokiausa.com/find-products
christexaport
2009-09-04, 03:07
I see the N900 page, but where does it allow you to preorder?
christexaport
2009-09-04, 03:08
Don't see the link anywhere. Can you do a screenshot or something?
See the screenshot here (http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/nokia-n900-now-up-for-649-preorder-in-the-us-of-a/)
christexaport
2009-09-04, 03:32
All I needed to see...
allnameswereout
2009-09-07, 07:18
Is there anything more known about the UK launch date? Cause I'm going to UK in October. Would be nice to grab one with the low GBP :)
deadmalc
2009-09-07, 09:09
Is there anything more known about the UK launch date? Cause I'm going to UK in October. Would be nice to grab one with the low GBP :)
I've pre-ordered and all it says on the order is:
"This order has not shipped", not particularly helpful.
I am hoping that it will ship 1st October (naturally I'm hoping it will ship before, ideally today - but I was hoping the n900 was out last year - eternal optimist)
Just tried phoning the helpline but got bored waiting for call to be answered
I've also just done my pre-order. The nearest I've seen to a date is actually on the Expansys site which says expected 19th October. I'm hoping that coming direct from Nokia will be sooner than that.
sachin007
2009-09-07, 15:28
According to a tweet
" #N900 delivery is delaying, nokia changed the date from 1st of october to 12th october. this affects all preorders too."
According to a tweet
" #N900 delivery is delaying, nokia changed the date from 1st of october to 12th october. this affects all preorders too."
Don't do this to me (and the people around me which are already suffering enough!) :rolleyes:
GeneralAntilles
2009-09-07, 15:40
" #N900 delivery is delaying, nokia changed the date from 1st of october to 12th october. this affects all preorders too."
It's going to be super awesome if we're all carrying N800s and N810s to the Summit. Have fun talking about Harmattan, Nokia, when we're still on Diablo. :rolleyes:
hey sachine i just wanted to ask you the US version for pre-order is this version made in finland or made in china please need to know :confused::confused::confused:
digittante
2009-09-07, 17:04
I'm hoping a quadband model supporting 850/1700/1800/2100 to cover all us models.
+1 for your very sane suggestion. The segmentation of 3G technology at all levels of the mobile value chain (OEM's, carriers, retailers) has been rife w/ mis/dis-information for years. "Will this work on my carrier?", "Does this phone have 1700mhz or 1900mhz?", "What if I travel overseas with it?"
Most recent example of this (and relevant to this N900 thread): I rang T-Mo last week just before buying an N900 (http://www.digittante.com/wp/2009/09/03/first-i-bought-a-nokia-n900/): The Tier3 tech support guy hadn't heard of the N900 but said it needed "1.9gigaherz" to be compatible w/ T-Mo US 3G. When I shared the N900 3G freqs, he check w/ his manager and reported back that the N900 likely has "European 3G" and wouldn't work in the US. When I repeated again the N900 had 1700mhz/2100mhz just like T-Mo US, he checked again with his supervisor. "Yeah, but that's European 2100mhz" he said. "Not American 2100mhz..." What's the difference? He couldn't say. I suspect there isn't one, and he (and his boss) were simply FUD'ing about a 'foreign' device.
Quad-band GSM phones have been around for a while now, why can't OEM's just make 'quad-band' 3G phone and eliminate all the confusion?
And for the record, I've been w/ T-Mo/DeutscheTelekom for over a decade and almost always bring my own phone. When T-Mo established a separate tech support team to help customers w/ non-T-Mo phones, support really improved (for me). I'm curious if Sprint/Verizon/AT&T provide similar support?
ColdFusion
2009-09-07, 17:27
According to a tweet
" #N900 delivery is delaying, nokia changed the date from 1st of october to 12th october. this affects all preorders too."
Probably overwhelmed with preorders. Nokia when are you going to take Maemo seriously! :rolleyes:
deadmalc
2009-09-07, 17:40
Boy do I feel like knee-capping someone (anyone will do)
Can I ask who the tweet was from? Just dont want to go off before i know its a reputable source.
generationally
2009-09-07, 17:54
Can I ask who the tweet was from? Just dont want to go off before i know its a reputable source.
Did a quick twitter search:
http://twitter.com/Rotkaeqpchen/status/3816099816
Did a quick twitter search:
http://twitter.com/Rotkaeqpchen/status/3816099816
Ahh ok. But nothing from nokia directly then? Just I checked my pre-order and it makes no mention of a delay.
mm why no one is answering my question about the us version if the N900 will be made in finland or china !!! ?
texaslabrat
2009-09-07, 18:23
mm why no one is answering my question about the us version if the N900 will be made in finland or china !!! ?
Maybe because nobody knows? Take a chill pill, man.
MaxiKana
2009-09-07, 18:25
mm why no one is answering my question about the us version if the N900 will be made in finland or china !!! ?
I don't think no one really knows yet. AFAIK Nokia have changed their manufacturing in recent years to cut logistical costs to a model where they try to make the handset as close to the markets as possible. So I'm guessing the US handsets won't be made in Finland since the factory in Salo will be producing handsets for the EU market.
allnameswereout
2009-09-07, 18:30
Well it cannot ship on 1 October 2009 in UK because that is (or was?) the launch date in DE & IT.
It's going to be super awesome if we're all carrying N800s and N810s to the Summit. Have fun talking about Harmattan, Nokia, when we're still on Diablo. :rolleyes:Maybe N900 is sold on summit ;)
dantonic
2009-09-07, 18:40
And for the record, I've been w/ T-Mo/DeutscheTelekom for over a decade and almost always bring my own phone. When T-Mo established a separate tech support team to help customers w/ non-T-Mo phones, support really improved (for me). I'm curious if Sprint/Verizon/AT&T provide similar support?
Just wanted to mention that I've used ATT in the past, and have now been with Tmobile for 5years. My wife still uses ATT.
Tmobile has excellent customer service in comparison, but the coverage... :( sometimes I just want to scream!
texaslabrat
2009-09-07, 18:54
Just wanted to mention that I've used ATT in the past, and have now been with Tmobile for 5years. My wife still uses ATT.
Tmobile has excellent customer service in comparison, but the coverage... :( sometimes I just want to scream!
I just switched to T-mobile in preparation for receiving my new N900 (and saving $60/month in the process...happy bonus). One thing that I've noticed is the marked decrease in signal strength indoors due to the lack of 850Mhz coverage. Still, even with 1-2 bars of signal on the N95's meter, the calls are clear and I've yet to have one drop yet. So, while on paper it looks worse, in practice it seems to actually be an improvement in performance. Perhaps that's due to the oversubscription of AT&T's network due to the iphone...plenty of RF signal strength but the network falls down due to the load. Hopefully the same will prove true with the 3G performance as well..but I'll have to wait until my new toy arrives to test it.
I though shipping meant when the goods were leaving the factory. They still have to get to the local distributer before they can be sent out to the customer. If that is true then around about the middle of Oct for delivery sounds about right for a shipping date of the 1st.
Well it cannot ship on 1 October 2009 in UK because that is (or was?) the launch date in DE & IT.
12th October is also the shipping day in Germany according to the online shop. :(
Quad-band GSM phones have been around for a while now, why can't OEM's just make 'quad-band' 3G phone and eliminate all the confusion?
And 900Mhz would make it 5 bands.
Engineering and/or build cost problems?
I don't think no one really knows yet. AFAIK Nokia have changed their manufacturing in recent years to cut logistical costs to a model where they try to make the handset as close to the markets as possible. So I'm guessing the US handsets won't be made in Finland since the factory in Salo will be producing handsets for the EU market.
I don't think that Nokia manufactures handsets at any location closer to the US than Salo.
I don't think that Nokia manufactures handsets at any location closer to the US than Salo.
yea but as for the previous mobile N97 it was made in china .. for the us version offcourse ...:(:(
MaxiKana
2009-09-08, 07:56
yea but as for the previous mobile N97 it was made in china .. for the us version offcourse ...:(:(
I belive Nokias tolerances are the same for every factory. I doubt quality is an issue in the Chinese handsets compared to the ones made in Salo. I'd say the ones made in China are of better quality since you're more likely to lose your job if you make a mistake in china when compared to Finland where it's almost impossible to get fired --> people tend to be lazy. Quality control is in place to catch handsets that aren't within tolerances.
Most quality issues with Nokias handsets are of a design nature rather than of a construction issue.
HangLoose
2009-09-08, 08:27
hmm... I am not a Finn but I have been living in Finland for quite some time and I dont think Finns are lazy at all..
Maybe depending on the industry one works this can hold the truth but still...
I have seen some weird things like people playing games at work (where I come from people would be fired straight away) but still they manage, somehow, to gtd.
Maybe we have deviated a bit from the post topic... :P just MAYBE!
Btw, I have ordered my N900 and I am damn anxious for it to arrive.
MaxiKana
2009-09-08, 08:38
That's gonna go over well ....... :rolleyes:
I am a Finn, and people who work manufacturing jobs tend to not really care about their job and do it poorly compared to people who actually are responsible for something. Assembling mobile phones is not really that fun.
Did a quick twitter search:
http://twitter.com/Rotkaeqpchen/status/3816099816
I always say to wait the official announcement of nokia
I am a Finn, and people who work manufacturing jobs tend to not really care about their job and do it poorly compared to people who actually are responsible for something. Assembling mobile phones is not really that fun.
Thats plain bs and a stupid generalization. I used to work in a manufacturing factory as a summer trainee back in highschool and I would say that those bluecollar workers I met were really hard working and honest people.
This kind of talk is just ignorant and doesn't have a base on any facts. :(
HangLoose
2009-09-08, 11:25
Btw, was it delayed or not?
I have pre ordered and if it takes more 12 days for the N900 to arrive I can go walking to Espoo to grab one by my self :P
Well it cannot ship on 1 October 2009 in UK because that is (or was?) the launch date in DE & IT.
Maybe N900 is sold on summit ;)
That would be ok for me and worth the trip to Amsterdam all alone :-)
(at least better than to preorder - have it delayed - only getting it AFTER the summit...)
I don't think that Nokia manufactures handsets at any location closer to the US than Salo.
Pacific Rim.....
From the Nokia germany website.....for N900 launch
"Bei Vorbestellung ist eine Anlieferung voraussichtlich ab dem 12. Oktober 2009 möglich. Dies ist abhängig von der gewählten Versandart und Produkt-Verfügbarkeit."
after google translation :-)
"In one pre-delivery is expected by 12 October 2009 possible. This depends on the selected shipping and product availability."
.....
by the time it will release the interest will be gone , just like the palm pre......
the least they could have done was to send out sample units for review to known websites so it helps customers decide and nokia to fix any unoticed bugs unless they have tons to hide !
I really dont think a lag of about 1.5 months between announcement and ship is that bad. I want my n900 as much as anyone and sure I am a little bummed about Oct 12th date, but really its not a long time in the scheme of things.
From the Nokia germany website.....for N900 launch
"Bei Vorbestellung ist eine Anlieferung voraussichtlich ab dem 12. Oktober 2009 möglich. Dies ist abhängig von der gewählten Versandart und Produkt-Verfügbarkeit."
after google translation :-)
"In one pre-delivery is expected by 12 October 2009 possible. This depends on the selected shipping and product availability."
.....
by the time it will release the interest will be gone , just like the palm pre......
the least they could have done was to send out sample units for review to known websites so it helps customers decide and nokia to fix any unoticed bugs unless they have tons to hide !
Two more weeks isn't going to hurt interest. :rolleyes:
the least they could have done was to send out sample units for review to known websites so it helps customers decide and nokia to fix any unoticed bugs unless they have tons to hide !
Don't worry, there will be plenty of bugs to fix for quite some time after release.....it's the Nokia way.
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And increasingly, they're not the only ones with this approach. It's a result of the fast pace of technology development and the consumer market.
Laughing Man
2009-09-08, 19:53
Haha I'll be waiting on those bug fixes, for a slight price drop if it's not subsidized, and for the software here. ;)
The first week after announcement expected delivery date was October 01 on the german Nokia website. Then they changed it to Oct 12. Now it's kinda colliding with the birthday of my girlfriend. Conflicts of interest :-(
mullerrad
2009-09-09, 09:31
I have pre ordered mine in the UK from expansys and they have 23rd October on their web site.
I just have to play with my G1 till october.
I have pre ordered mine in the UK from expansys and they have 23rd October on their web site.
I just have to play with my G1 till october.
small correction mullerrad
expansys uk says oct 19th, and seems like they are giving away 30£ vouchers , for those who dont have maybe we can buy ourselves a 16gb card with some discount now....
Oh no you don't:
"The vouchers cannot be redeemed against orders containing
memory cards, USB flash disks"
Dang.
peterjb31
2009-09-09, 11:06
Oh no you don't:
"The vouchers cannot be redeemed against orders containing
memory cards, USB flash disks"
Dang.
However spare batteries are covered...
Does anyone know where I can buy it in Denmark?
I tried ordering it from the Swedish site, but it won't accept my postal code :(
Does anyone know where I can buy it in Denmark?
I tried ordering it from the Swedish site, but it won't accept my postal code :(
Well you could order it from Finland's largest on-line called Verkkokauppa.com. They ship to all Nordic countries, and the model sold in Finland is the Nordic version (keyboard supports danish/norweigian alphabets. I have used the nordic prototype).
Verkkokauppa allready accepts preorders and they actually selling it cheaper than Nokia (589€ vs 599€). As Finland's largest on-line retailer, they usually get new Nokia models early, sometimes first in the world.
If you are interested you could send them email:
svenska@verkkokauppa.com (for customer service in swedish, but you can propably send in danish as well).
Or
sales@verkkokauppa.com
I hope I can find it in China soon and it has Chinese!!
christexaport
2009-09-11, 01:19
+1 for your very sane suggestion. The segmentation of 3G technology at all levels of the mobile value chain (OEM's, carriers, retailers) has been rife w/ mis/dis-information for years. "Will this work on my carrier?", "Does this phone have 1700mhz or 1900mhz?", "What if I travel overseas with it?"
Most recent example of this (and relevant to this N900 thread): I rang T-Mo last week just before buying an N900 (http://www.digittante.com/wp/2009/09/03/first-i-bought-a-nokia-n900/): The Tier3 tech support guy hadn't heard of the N900 but said it needed "1.9gigaherz" to be compatible w/ T-Mo US 3G. When I shared the N900 3G freqs, he check w/ his manager and reported back that the N900 likely has "European 3G" and wouldn't work in the US. When I repeated again the N900 had 1700mhz/2100mhz just like T-Mo US, he checked again with his supervisor. "Yeah, but that's European 2100mhz" he said. "Not American 2100mhz..." What's the difference? He couldn't say. I suspect there isn't one, and he (and his boss) were simply FUD'ing about a 'foreign' device.
Quad-band GSM phones have been around for a while now, why can't OEM's just make 'quad-band' 3G phone and eliminate all the confusion?
And for the record, I've been w/ T-Mo/DeutscheTelekom for over a decade and almost always bring my own phone. When T-Mo established a separate tech support team to help customers w/ non-T-Mo phones, support really improved (for me). I'm curious if Sprint/Verizon/AT&T provide similar support?
you might enjoy this old series of articles I posted in my frustration about a year ago...
http://www.symbian-freak.com/news/008/07/oems_must_set_american_3g_free_quit_fooling_custom ers_christexaport.htm
http://www.symbian-freak.com/news/008/07/set_3g_free_quit_fooling_customers_christexaport.h tm
That would be ok for me and worth the trip to Amsterdam all alone :-)
(at least better than to preorder - have it delayed - only getting it AFTER the summit...)
this is the situation i'm in: having pre-ordered the n900 during the nokia world from nokia.fi, and i will be attending the summit. i could not find any information on whether there is any way i will receive n900 either through the pre-order or by other means before or during the summit.
almost goes without saying, but it would be so much nicer to have the n900 during the summit.
GeneralAntilles
2009-09-11, 17:44
almost goes without saying, but it would be so much nicer to have the n900 during the summit.
Yes, and damn near pointless to attend without it. Nokia's really cutting it close here and I'm more and more worried that we're going to get burned.
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